City vs Bayern Munich Post match Thread

Prestwich_Blue said:
We played the European champions and also by far the best team in Europe who were utterly dominant. The manner of the defeat was extremely disappointing but even a point at home against them would have been an excellent result. We were never going to win this group and our key game was always going to be in Moscow. Anything there and we're through.
Yes, although I'd have liked to have seen us rise to somewhere near our potential

Too many defensive gifts

We'll never know, but was it a good idea to start with Navas wide and two up front against a Bayern 5 man midfield that absolutely steam-rollered our midfield? We defended the penalty area brilliantly in the 1s half (Hart apart) but couldn't get out of our half or keep the ball. The man on the ball never had an option

Even if Hart had not blundered, I think we'd have been in trouble

No shame losing to one of the best teams I have ever seen. They have individual brilliance and a fantastic physical power that we can not match, but inferior teams to City have threatened them so we should have been able to

We are our own worst enemies in Europe, never mind Bayern.
 
Stoned Rose said:
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Stoned Rose said:
You dont remember how widely our arseholes were gaped by Dortmund at home last year then?

They absolutely Stella'd us that night.

Tonight is nothing new against the real big dogs in europe.

You must be bloody joking. Silva had great chances in the second and 44th minutes to put us ahead against Dortmund. They played better than us admittedly, and had the better chances and more of them, but to compare the match with the mauling we got tonight is pathetic. Is anyone saying this marks an improvement on last season? We had our first shot on goal tonight in the 78th minute! And everyonecould see what was wrong - apart from the manager. He was brought in because of our poor performances in Europe, but we have taken a step backwards.

22 shots on goal and Joe Hart making about 7 or 8 blinding saves proves you are wrong.

We got slapped senseless that night.

Somebody buy that tedious rag **** a one way ticket to Turkey please!
 
And I still love City, No panic here, BMunich were through at the time of the draw, it's the attitude, mentality the Germans have brought to European and World football, and us tonight, that dictates the beat. We were just another victim.
Still reckon we'll hit the knock out stages and see improvement. No chance of winning mind with our mindset.
 
mammutly said:
Joycee Banercheck said:
mammutly said:
Credit to Bayern - great performance.

But four two fucking two against probably the best side in Europe?!

I've said it before, but the Pellegrini is 60 years old and if he was ever going to be a great manager he'd have been one by now.
No wonder we got beat fielding 8 players. Your last sentence is just wank. It doesn't even read right!

Obviously I meant four, four fucking two.

I think my last sentence could without a 'the' , but the point is clear. I know my grammar is usually of a higher standard but I've just got home from the match and it has been a long day. Sorry.
I shall let this slide, but you need to up your game, mate!
 
I was there tonight and it was kind if brutal. Only the drink can help me now :(
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
We played the European champions and also by far the best team in Europe who were utterly dominant. The manner of the defeat was extremely disappointing but even a point at home against them would have been an excellent result. We were never going to win this group and our key game was always going to be in Moscow. Anything there and we're through.


Not that getting through will make any difference because we are so far off the best teams in Europe it is scary.

However the last 15 minutes actually was much better. They probably took their foot off the gas but at least we had a go.

However the subs that were made late in the game should have been made at half time. Poor tactics, poor in game management and poor performances from too many players.
I agree changes should have been made at half time. Navas was doing nothing and Milner should have been on to shore up the midfield. Dzeko was having one of his shoulder shrugging games and should have been replaced by Negredo. Despite getting tonked, that game might have been rescued or at least we could have made more of a contest of it.
 
Stoned Rose said:
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Stoned Rose said:
You dont remember how widely our arseholes were gaped by Dortmund at home last year then?

They absolutely Stella'd us that night.

Tonight is nothing new against the real big dogs in europe.

You must be bloody joking. Silva had great chances in the second and 44th minutes to put us ahead against Dortmund. They played better than us admittedly, and had the better chances and more of them, but to compare the match with the mauling we got tonight is pathetic. Is anyone saying this marks an improvement on last season? We had our first shot on goal tonight in the 78th minute! And everyonecould see what was wrong - apart from the manager. He was brought in because of our poor performances in Europe, but we have taken a step backwards.

22 shots on goal and Joe Hart making about 7 or 8 blinding saves proves you are wrong.

We got slapped senseless that night.

And we drew 1-1, which wasn't good enough for your bunch who were only interested in results. What about Pellegrii's result? Satisfied? Real evidence of improvement? Or are you going to argue that our credibility depends on results against Plzen?
 
Can't understand why it took so long for Pelle to realise that he needed 5 in midfield.

Why did he start Dzeko? Negredo has proven tonight that he should always start ahead of Dzeko. Negredo, Silva and Milner were the only players who could be given any credit tonight.

Bottom line is we were beaten by a better team but our selections, tactics and the officials didn't help.

Can someone who watched it on TV confirm whether all those offsides in the first half were correct?
 
Stoned Rose said:
daxman said:
sh249 said:
Of course, technically they're on a different planet to us. Tactically too at the moment. But they also showed masses of desire, not only to press and to (want to) work their bollocks off, but also to get on the ball and play, even under pressure. The lack of bravery on the part of our players - excluding the three subs - was mindblowing.
It had little to do with desire. Navas showed a lot of desire. He chased every ball. and when he got cornered on every pass he got in the first half, he tried to run with it to the middle looking for someone to pass too. Dihno showed desired. Slide tackled chased, try to harrass and all. So did Nasri and Aguero. Clichy too and Micah too. There were City players all over the pitch working their arses off. But the talent, tecchnique, and tactics were so superior, they were often left gasping.

This is a syndrome common to Very good teams that play Guardiola teams for the first time. The difference in class shocks you to your bones. Gi watch every Madrid/Barca battle under Guardiola, it was always the new big money Madrid buys that looked the most lost. Coz they'd have never witnessed anything like that before. Check out the 5-0 smashing of Madrid under Guardiola, Ozil, Khadera and Benzema all looked confused. Our guys looked proper confused and mind fucked. Aguero got the ball for the first time in 30 minutes and literally was too mentally drained to attack Boateng. The same Boateng that got eaten for lunch by alsorans in the prem. Nasri had the same problem, he had chased for 25 minutes and when he finally had his first possession of the ball, his mind was all fucked. He had turned into a defender. He simply turned around and passed to Clichy.

These consciensious possession and early pressure system, fuks with you on so many levels. It sapped the confidence right out of our players.

I still reckon playing with 2 strikers in any game is ancient and silly. Just like having 2 DMs is silly, or playing with a hardman DM who mostly tackles is silly. These are all static ideas. And we (like most teams in the Prem) adhere to one or more of these follies. Lahm was a DM for Bayern today, and I barely remember him making any tackles. Coz most often he was busy passing the shaite out of us. Same with Busquet at Barca. They really don't make tackles. They force turnovers by shrinking the field in areas. And it starts from the top.

I get sad, when all these clearly tactical decisions are designated as some unquantifiable quality like "desire" or "passion" or "effort." Rather this are tactical roles that players need to play or they wouldn't make the 11. Muller must always cut off one side of the field once the ball is played back to the keeper, forceing the keeper to either give it to the player Muller wants him to give it to, or punt it up field for a 50/50. He did this all game. This wasn't effort, it was tactical.

Alaba, Kroos, Ribery and Lahm, once Muller had forced eithr Kompany or Hart to give Navas the ball, immediately converge on him. The CDs Immediately step up and shorten the field, suddenly Navas is in a pickle and has to dribble his way backwards to find any daylight. This wasn't effort or desire or passion> It was simply tactics. A thing that was repeated time and time again.

Effort is when Milner chases the ball from Dante to Neuer to Rafinhna back to Neuer who then releases it to Lahm. Rooney did the same in the CL final against Barca a few years back, and tired out in 20 minutes and stopped doing it. Effort doesn't work against this kind of clinical football. Beating "effort" or "desire" is built into the system. Nasri Did the exact runnaround around minute 29, and had the exact same result as Milner. Nothing. Dzeko did the same (albeit he gave up After going from one defender to the goalie) but had he continue to run at all four, he would have achieved the exact same result.

It is their Tactical and technical superiority that is debilitating, not our lack of effort. On lucky days (with superior teams having an off day) "effort" might get you something. But on a day when they are up for it, you'd better be as tactically proficient and lucky!

We were neither today. So we got schooled.

This.

I mentioned earlier Bayern are like a machine. They do everything right and at the right time.

They stop you doing what you want and they make you do what they want.

Cruelly our players and manager had absolutely fuck all idea what to do about it.

We are the latest in a very very long line to be eaten by the machine. We definitely wont be the last.
They are the best side I've ever seen in the flesh. But Pellegrini made it easy for them.
 

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