City vs Bayern Post Match Thread

[blueincy]

Brilliant..

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Brilliant..

I concur

 

[dom]

Bayern Munich lost after two late goals by Manchester City, but those goals were more the product of Manchester City's man advantage then any mistake by Bayern Munich



When Bayern Munich went up 2-1 in the 41st minute, it came on the back of a 20 minute performance where 10-man Bayern Munich ran circles around a Manchester City defense. It was a truly astounding display and it was probably the point where the expectations flew out the window. Bayern Munich were down to 10 men. Manchester City are a very very good team, despite their struggles. Give them an inch and they will win. And the late "lapses" from Bayern Munich were far less the team failing and more that Manchester City finally found the right combination to exploit their man advantage.

Manchester City's Equalizer

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In the 82nd minute, Sergio Aguero scored Manchester City's second goal to equalize. That goal started with a sequence of attacking Bayern Munich play. Interchanges between Alons, Shaqiri, Robben, and Hojbjerg were dynamic and fast however the end left Bayern Munich isolated on one side of the field. Xabi Alonso is being pressured from behind with zero support as Manchester City closes the net. Rafinha is marked, Shaqiri is marked while Aguero and Nasri are marking the space preventing Alonso from passing to either Boateng or Robben. It's a closing net of pressure, where the extra man in midfield allows the pressure on Alonso to be immediate and intense. With the only passing option left for Alonso being Dante or a pass out of play, there's very little to be surprised about when Nasri reads the intent and intercepts the pass to Dante.

It's a sequence of clever defensive play and it's exactly what any good European team should be able to do when up a man.

Manchester City's Winner

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In stoppage time, Manchester City were pushing for the late winner. Again Bayern Munich were in possession before the ball was forced to the outside. Again we see the man advantage of Manchester City in effect. A double team on the far side culminates in Bayern Munich having to pass back into the backline. With a press and man advantage up front, Manchester City cuts off the ability of Dante to play the ball back to Neuer, into the midfield, or out to Juan Bernat. This leaves him with the only option of playing long. In this instance, the ball is immediately instantly recycled by the Blues who dump the ball back into the strikers.








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Bayern Munich lost control against Manchester City

Phillip Quinn







With City pushing into the Bayern half, it's the Bayern midfield's immediate response to step up and pressure the City midfielders.Down a man, Bayern are intent on using multiple pressers to win the ball back. While this strategy is one of the best, it leaves them with holes all over the place. Unfortunately, the man advantage of Manchester City ensures an open man so that when City recycles the ball quickly after Dante's ball out of the back, an open man is left in midfield. It's a sequence of rapid transitions, exactly when two 11-men sides see someone left open frequently. With 10 men that likelihood becomes even greater - and Manchester City exploits that advantage

A simple control, a simple pass to Aguero (Aguero takes a bad touch and the ball bounces off Boateng back to Aguero. That's not a mistake, that happens) sees the striker in on goal. Game over.

While Bayern Munich played an absolutely incredible game, controlling the match and dictating the tempo and flow of the game, the fact is they went down a man early to a very good Manchester City side. They're a team who knows how to exploit that with one of the better tactical coaches in Europe. While we all hoped that Bayern Munich could pull out the unbelievable, a far bigger slice of the credit for this loss goes to Manchester City's tactical astuteness in the second half and they way they forced Bayern Munich into corners.

It's a very strange read, that.
It's like as if this journalist watched the game and then actually analyzed what he saw rather than fitted it into a headline or piece he already had written.
Right or wrong in the analysis, he actually tries to demonstrate the technicalities of the tactics employed and shows some understanding of the game.
It's a novel approach. Do you think it could catch on?[/quote]


I would love to believe so but actually, .....

no single journalist has the bollocks to do so..

They are either mired in personal ego stuff where their own favoured club's status is threatened and/ or they are under pressure to trot out the mass plastic-friendly party line

You don't have to believe me on this one

Two of my three sisters work at national dailies

they have been aware of this for a while

 

[Jacob Smith]

Sergio's pen from 116, steady cam... <a class="postlink" href="http://youtu.be/DuCkbRSAn_I" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://youtu.be/DuCkbRSAn_I</a>

 

[IBlue]

Bayern Munich lost after two late goals by Manchester City, but those goals were more the product of Manchester City's man advantage then any mistake by Bayern Munich



When Bayern Munich went up 2-1 in the 41st minute, it came on the back of a 20 minute performance where 10-man Bayern Munich ran circles around a Manchester City defense. It was a truly astounding display and it was probably the point where the expectations flew out the window. Bayern Munich were down to 10 men. Manchester City are a very very good team, despite their struggles. Give them an inch and they will win. And the late "lapses" from Bayern Munich were far less the team failing and more that Manchester City finally found the right combination to exploit their man advantage.

Manchester City's Equalizer

bayern-munihc-manchester-city-ucl5-loss-goal2-aguero




In the 82nd minute, Sergio Aguero scored Manchester City's second goal to equalize. That goal started with a sequence of attacking Bayern Munich play. Interchanges between Alons, Shaqiri, Robben, and Hojbjerg were dynamic and fast however the end left Bayern Munich isolated on one side of the field. Xabi Alonso is being pressured from behind with zero support as Manchester City closes the net. Rafinha is marked, Shaqiri is marked while Aguero and Nasri are marking the space preventing Alonso from passing to either Boateng or Robben. It's a closing net of pressure, where the extra man in midfield allows the pressure on Alonso to be immediate and intense. With the only passing option left for Alonso being Dante or a pass out of play, there's very little to be surprised about when Nasri reads the intent and intercepts the pass to Dante.

It's a sequence of clever defensive play and it's exactly what any good European team should be able to do when up a man.

Manchester City's Winner

bayern-munich-manchester-city-ucl5-loss-aguero-goal3




In stoppage time, Manchester City were pushing for the late winner. Again Bayern Munich were in possession before the ball was forced to the outside. Again we see the man advantage of Manchester City in effect. A double team on the far side culminates in Bayern Munich having to pass back into the backline. With a press and man advantage up front, Manchester City cuts off the ability of Dante to play the ball back to Neuer, into the midfield, or out to Juan Bernat. This leaves him with the only option of playing long. In this instance, the ball is immediately instantly recycled by the Blues who dump the ball back into the strikers.








Must Reads




Bayern Munich lost control against Manchester City

Phillip Quinn







With City pushing into the Bayern half, it's the Bayern midfield's immediate response to step up and pressure the City midfielders.Down a man, Bayern are intent on using multiple pressers to win the ball back. While this strategy is one of the best, it leaves them with holes all over the place. Unfortunately, the man advantage of Manchester City ensures an open man so that when City recycles the ball quickly after Dante's ball out of the back, an open man is left in midfield. It's a sequence of rapid transitions, exactly when two 11-men sides see someone left open frequently. With 10 men that likelihood becomes even greater - and Manchester City exploits that advantage

A simple control, a simple pass to Aguero (Aguero takes a bad touch and the ball bounces off Boateng back to Aguero. That's not a mistake, that happens) sees the striker in on goal. Game over.

While Bayern Munich played an absolutely incredible game, controlling the match and dictating the tempo and flow of the game, the fact is they went down a man early to a very good Manchester City side. They're a team who knows how to exploit that with one of the better tactical coaches in Europe. While we all hoped that Bayern Munich could pull out the unbelievable, a far bigger slice of the credit for this loss goes to Manchester City's tactical astuteness in the second half and they way they forced Bayern Munich into corners.

It's a very strange read, that.
It's like as if this journalist watched the game and then actually analyzed what he saw rather than fitted it into a headline or piece he already had written.
Right or wrong in the analysis, he actually tries to demonstrate the technicalities of the tactics employed and shows some understanding of the game.
It's a novel approach. Do you think it could catch on?[/quote]


I would love to believe so but actually, .....

no single journalist has the bollocks to do so..

They are either mired in personal ego stuff where their own favoured club's status is threatened and/ or they are under pressure to trot out the mass plastic-friendly party line

You don't have to believe me on this one

Two of my three sisters work at national dailies

they have been aware of this for a while

Pretty much backs up my analysis, (p44), it wasn't an accident that we scored late, bayern had used a lot of energy and visably tired

 

[CelesteItis]

Typical rich team supporters. You can say all you want but this was the most obvious fixed game I have seen in years. Just score the goals in the last minutes, how convenient. And after 3-2 teams weren't even trying and then seeing all the c**ts hugging eachother after final whistle. Boateng is a former City player isnt he? says it all. Always the big teams shitting themselves whenever an underdog comes to play football with passion. I can see the germans throwing the last game too for big russian money. But no matter you wont win in Rome. 70000 true supporters waiting for you.

Are you Paul Scholes?

The c unt is just a...

stronzo figlio de una vecchia putana

 

[cleavers]

I've seen it three times now, once live, and two TV replays, and we deserved the win, Bayern played well, but we played better overall.

 

[stony]

I watched the match on ITV, went from elation to frustration and despair and then to euphoria as the game reached its pulsating climax. Then I entered the realms of fury as I heard the crap fed us by the panel of blockheads paid royally by ITV and read the rubbish the BBC's experts served up.

I took issue with the cliche that City can't play in Europe, but the team and the fans might feel they deserve to be in the CL now. Need we remind these "experts" that we're in the CL because we are champions of England, for the second time in three seasons, but we get stuck in the group of death each year because UEFA don't deserve to run the competition. So we play Bayern in three seasons out of the last four and actually beat them in 3 of the 6 games. Has any other club recorded as many wins against them? And this at a time when they are supposed to be the best club side in the world!

Then the Trafford Appreciation Society explained how poor our performance was. Against ten men! And a Bayern weakened by injuries! We never looked like soring! They dominated possession! They looked better on the ball! We were outclassed! We're a one man team - without Aguero we'd win nothing! And he had to be helped by three very uncharacteristic mistakes from Bayern!

To me this appeared to have been adopted as the party line before the game began, and was to be maintained whatever the result. But it does ignore what actually happened. Yes we were against ten men, but that wasn't because Bayern had the terrible luck to suffer four injuries. It was because their CB decided the only way he could cope with Lampard's through ball to Sergio was to kick our lad's feet from under him as he prepared to shoot. No-one else took the decision, and no-one had any sympathy with Ya Ya or Ferna when they saw red. Bayern rightly had to pay the price. Bayern rocked for a time but reorganised and looked what they are - a very good team indeed. But to my mind they kept possession rather than dominated it and they didn't actually do much more - their aim was to frustrate City rather than create chances and I don't think they ever really succeeded.

Now, I accept that City didn't hammer away at the Munich goal for 90 minutes either, but games at this level are rarely like that and I would also point out that Bayern's goals were not the result of wonderfully inventive play but of two incredibly sloppy pieces of defensive play and one very fortunate shoulder from Levandowski. If City's goals were lucky because our goals came from mistakes, why is the same not true of Bayern? Why are all goals not lucky?! So Bayern tried to run the clock down by keeping possession (and obvious time wasting) and City plugged away. No we didn't create a hatful of chances, but that's because Bayern can defend - so well, in fact, that they have only conceded 3 goals in the Bundesliga so far this season, but Scholes and Chiles kept that quiet!

And then we did step up the pace! Jovetic has not received any credit for his part in the equalizer. It was a careless pass from Alonso, but Jovetic had clearly been watching his lap top in preparation for the game - he started his run for the interception before the pass was even likely. And Sergio did the rest! As he did 5 minutes later! But he forced Boateng into the error and once he'd got it there was only going to be one outcome.

Now, I accept that Bayern may well be the best club side in the world, but I have never thought Boateng and Dante are anywhere near being the best central defensive partnership in the world. And over 90 minutes I always fancied Sergio would come out well ahead, and so it proved. He is as good as anyone in the world and he exposed them three times to win the match - but that's why we bought him, that's why the Sheikh didn't go back for Lee Bradbury. The last time Bayern came unstuck in the CL was to a team featuring the two most expensive players in history, but no-one sneered that Madrid only won because they had Ronaldo and Bale in the team! And if the sneerers want to know where we'd be without Sergio, they can look at last season where we had to cope without him for half the PL season. He's in a class of his own, but City are NOT a one man band! And if Bayern were weakened we must point out that, not only could Ya Ya, Ferna, Silva, Dzeko and Kolorov not play, but Bayern could pick from a squad of 25 - we are allowed a squad of 21, "to ensure fair play"! If you were in City's squad and you were fit, you were either in the team or on the bench on Tuesday. And this was the team which not only beat Bayern Munich, but scored as many goals in 90 minutes as the Bundesliga have managed against Bayern in 15 games. Well, Mr Savage, are we really as embarrassing as that?!

Great post BSH, I don't always agree with what you say but you always say it well and more often than not hit the nail squarely on the head.

 

[stony]

Bayern Munich lost after two late goals by Manchester City, but those goals were more the product of Manchester City's man advantage then any mistake by Bayern Munich

When Bayern Munich went up 2-1 in the 41st minute, it came on the back of a 20 minute performance where 10-man Bayern Munich ran circles around a Manchester City defense. It was a truly astounding display and it was probably the point where the expectations flew out the window. Bayern Munich were down to 10 men. Manchester City are a very very good team, despite their struggles. Give them an inch and they will win. And the late "lapses" from Bayern Munich were far less the team failing and more that Manchester City finally found the right combination to exploit their man advantage.

Manchester City's Equalizer

bayern-munihc-manchester-city-ucl5-loss-goal2-aguero

In the 82nd minute, Sergio Aguero scored Manchester City's second goal to equalize. That goal started with a sequence of attacking Bayern Munich play. Interchanges between Alons, Shaqiri, Robben, and Hojbjerg were dynamic and fast however the end left Bayern Munich isolated on one side of the field. Xabi Alonso is being pressured from behind with zero support as Manchester City closes the net. Rafinha is marked, Shaqiri is marked while Aguero and Nasri are marking the space preventing Alonso from passing to either Boateng or Robben. It's a closing net of pressure, where the extra man in midfield allows the pressure on Alonso to be immediate and intense. With the only passing option left for Alonso being Dante or a pass out of play, there's very little to be surprised about when Nasri reads the intent and intercepts the pass to Dante.

It's a sequence of clever defensive play and it's exactly what any good European team should be able to do when up a man
In stoppage time, Manchester City were pushing for the late winner. Again Bayern Munich were in possession before the ball was forced to the outside. Again we see the man advantage of Manchester City in effect. A double team on the far side culminates in Bayern Munich having to pass back into the backline. With a press and man advantage up front, Manchester City cuts off the ability of Dante to play the ball back to Neuer, into the midfield, or out to Juan Bernat. This leaves him with the only option of playing long. In this instance, the ball is immediately instantly recycled by the Blues who dump the ball back into the strikers.

Bayern Munich lost control against Manchester City


With City pushing into the Bayern half, it's the Bayern midfield's immediate response to step up and pressure the City midfielders.Down a man, Bayern are intent on using multiple pressers to win the ball back. While this strategy is one of the best, it leaves them with holes all over the place. Unfortunately, the man advantage of Manchester City ensures an open man so that when City recycles the ball quickly after Dante's ball out of the back, an open man is left in midfield. It's a sequence of rapid transitions, exactly when two 11-men sides see someone left open frequently. With 10 men that likelihood becomes even greater - and Manchester City exploits that advantage

A simple control, a simple pass to Aguero (Aguero takes a bad touch and the ball bounces off Boateng back to Aguero. That's not a mistake, that happens) sees the striker in on goal. Game over.

While Bayern Munich played an absolutely incredible game, controlling the match and dictating the tempo and flow of the game, the fact is they went down a man early to a very good Manchester City side. They're a team who knows how to exploit that with one of the better tactical coaches in Europe. While we all hoped that Bayern Munich could pull out the unbelievable, a far bigger slice of the credit for this loss goes to Manchester City's tactical astuteness in the second half and they way they forced Bayern Munich into corners.

Now that is a very interesting post, and its shows a level of analysis way above what we see in this country.

Hahaha, that is pure fucking genius.

 

[kupest]

Moment of the night was Neuer getting a yellow card for time wasting. Oh and after that he tried to do that again and then again when Aguero scored the second.

Teams that dominate and are just playing around don't do that.

Worlds best keeper got carded for time wasting :D. Not sure how he is going to feel about that.