City Vs Everton Pre Match Discussion Thread

[mancity1]

Now that it is clear Utd are a poor side without RVP, the match against Everton is going to be a true test against Premiership opposition. If we lose many staff at City are going to be feeling a great deal of heat. That said the huge pay offs they will get even for failure will keep them comfortable. Quite what Soriano & Begiristain see in Pellegrini is not yet clear. It had better become so very soon or we'll not be worrying about advancing to the second stage of the Champions League because we'll not be in the first stage.

I would have thought a number of managers both in Europe and in fact in the premiership ( namely Wenger ) would have been sounded before MP.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger in his memoirs or best seller mentions he was approached to manage City after RM was sacked but has unfinished business at Arsenal etc so declined.

Not disputing his credentials and longevity in management as he obviously has a decent skill set but in the premiership to manage a club with such high expectations ( after all we just sacked a man who had broken our title drought etc and oversaw our third chumps league qualification ) and your first job in the premiership at the age of 60 suggests that MP was a safe option to progress past the group stage and clearly with the squad assembled and their form under a manager with man management skills that was polarising people players and stakeholders with apparantly no interest in anything outside the first team results.

The side as it is was good enough on its own irrespective of who was in charge would take care of itself in the premiership a title again after surrendering it to the other half maybe maybe not but top four no dramas and what was needed was to tinker the squad bring the love back and with his experience a better fist of Chumps League would ensue playing the football that fans would love to watch world wide and ensure better outcomes in the land of Heinekin.

What may well have been underestimated was the real reason behind the mindset of the players we have and how the new players would perform in the premiership after the events of 2011/12 especially in the premiership and the character of those players.

I can easily see it going belly up for MP not because of his lack of nous to do well in Chumps and punching at or above the weight in charge of sides he has managed in the past but the fact that this group of players need a different type of manager to get the best out of them and even then it is short lived before things deteriorate.

No doubt Mancini cared and to some extent gave up in the end.

No matter how good ore well credentialed you are it well never be easy managing Man City.

 

[SrilankanBlue]

This is a staggering stat Lads

‏@OptaJoe 8m
6 - Man City have dropped the most points from winning positions this season in the PL & just one less than the whole of 2012-13. Slip.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

I'm worried about this game. Everton are the only unbeaten team in the league, they've had joy over us in the past, our defence and keeper are porous, Lukaku is a beast. It's a must win game considering we then have 2 away league games at West Ham and Chelsea, which we'll probably only get a point from considering our horrendous away form. Something needs to change on the road, and fast!

 

[Partington_blue]

To me, this is a must win game. We are already 5 points behind Arsenal and don't want to slip 8 points behind this early in the season. Arsenal away at West Brom, I expect them to get something there, so we really need to win.

8 points, or even 6 points behind going into the international break wouldn't be great at all especially with two hard (considering our recent away performances) away games after this one.

After yesterday, our confidence will be knocked, so its upto Mr Pellegrini to make sure he picks the right team and the players are up for it. Will be a very tough game, with Everton unbeaten and playing some decent stuff, not to mention our recent record against them.

Going for 2-0 City, staying in touch with the leaders, with the best goal difference in the league. That will do me.

 

[toffee balls]

I'm a pessimistic bastard at the best of times, but I have a bad sense of foreboding about this game.

Of course you do.

Old habits die very hard.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm worried about this game. Everton are the only unbeaten team in the league, they've had joy over us in the past, our defence and keeper are porous, Lukaku is a beast. It's a must win game considering we then have 2 away league games at West Ham and Chelsea, which we'll probably only get a point from considering our horrendous away form. Something needs to change on the road, and fast!

Having said that , Everton are not in the same 'league 'football wise' , that Bayern Munich are .... judging by last nights staggering performance , i don't think any english side is.

So we should be able to give them more problems than we managed to give Bayern last night , or we SHOULD be able to ...... i don't think last night was a total disaster , albeit it certainly looked that way , but we didn't look half bad in the final 15 minutes , and we need to carry that fight on into the Everton game.

 

[MihaiCity]

This is a staggering stat Lads

‏@OptaJoe 8m
6 - Man City have dropped the most points from winning positions this season in the PL & just one less than the whole of 2012-13. Slip.

WoW!!!!

 

[kippaxking79]

I'd snap your hand off for a boring 1 nil win at the minute

 

[chris85mcfc]

Now that it is clear Utd are a poor side without RVP, the match against Everton is going to be a true test against Premiership opposition. If we lose many staff at City are going to be feeling a great deal of heat. That said the huge pay offs they will get even for failure will keep them comfortable. Quite what Soriano & Begiristain see in Pellegrini is not yet clear. It had better become so very soon or we'll not be worrying about advancing to the second stage of the Champions League because we'll not be in the first stage.

I would have thought a number of managers both in Europe and in fact in the premiership ( namely Wenger ) would have been sounded before MP.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger in his memoirs or best seller mentions he was approached to manage City after RM was sacked but has unfinished business at Arsenal etc so declined.

Not disputing his credentials and longevity in management as he obviously has a decent skill set but in the premiership to manage a club with such high expectations ( after all we just sacked a man who had broken our title drought etc and oversaw our third chumps league qualification ) and your first job in the premiership at the age of 60 suggests that MP was a safe option to progress past the group stage and clearly with the squad assembled and their form under a manager with man management skills that was polarising people players and stakeholders with apparantly no interest in anything outside the first team results.

The side as it is was good enough on its own irrespective of who was in charge would take care of itself in the premiership a title again after surrendering it to the other half maybe maybe not but top four no dramas and what was needed was to tinker the squad bring the love back and with his experience a better fist of Chumps League would ensue playing the football that fans would love to watch world wide and ensure better outcomes in the land of Heinekin.

What may well have been underestimated was the real reason behind the mindset of the players we have and how the new players would perform in the premiership after the events of 2011/12 especially in the premiership and the character of those players.

I can easily see it going belly up for MP not because of his lack of nous to do well in Chumps and punching at or above the weight in charge of sides he has managed in the past but the fact that this group of players need a different type of manager to get the best out of them and even then it is short lived before things deteriorate.

No doubt Mancini cared and to some extent gave up in the end.

No matter how good ore well credentialed you are it well never be easy managing Man City.

Mate can you do us all a favour and take your opinions to the Pellegrini thread. Mainly because this is the Everton discussion thread, along with the fact that your starting to do my head in.

 

[Ducado]

I'd snap your hand off for a boring 1 nil win at the minute

I won’t nothing short of an emphatic victory will do for me the manager and the team have a point to prove to us all