City vs Fullham Post Match Discussion

[Scouse Blue]

How I long for the days when walking out of the ground after a comprehensive 2-0 victory (that could so easily have been 5) meant listening to happy blues on the phone ins on the drive home and seeing the beaming faces of fellow fans leaving the ground.
Of course those were the days before the FM generation decided that by not scoring 5 a game there is justification in slagging off the manager, and players who may not quite have hit a 9 out of 10 are vilified and spoken about as if they've just come from the North-West Counties division!
Ah well fuck'em, I'm happy (as I am with every win) and I still believe we'll win the league. We might not be blowing teams away in the style that we became used to in the first half of last season but this last 5-6 weeks have seen us step up considerably and that bodes well for the run in.
This fixture was always going to be a pretty run of the mill result IMO and the danger was our own sloppiness costing us due to concentration levels dropping. For the most part I thought we kept focus at the back, the midfield (Barry in particular) won most of their battles and bar the actual finishing the forward line linked well and as mentioned could have scored a brace apiece.
So yeah, there is room for improvement and there will be tougher tests in the coming weeks but for today lets try and take the positives :- Aguero back and looking sharp, the goals will come - back four looking stronger and more cohesive as the season progresses - Rodwell back, Nasri back - Barry looking as good as ever - 3 points and a clean sheet - Silva being a City player.. There are plenty more and I'm sure there are people who would compile a list of negatives to counter but like I said - fuck'em..

Best post this evening. Bravo Pablo :-)

 

[bluemc1]

just got back and game went just how i thought, might of gone for nasri at home over garcia but hey we did the business, Clichy is best left back ive seen at city, love him, come on spurs lets make it very exciting

 

[Blueband Brother]

I recommend that you guys read my earlier post in this thread about tevez.

Im sure you will all say it is a load of nonsense and i am full of crap but i still want to hear opinion about the issue i raised.

I agree with you. Tevez as the lone striker in the years we finished 5th and 3rd andwon the FA cup, was World Class. He carried the fight of a well drilled functional outfit and was worth every penny of his money. Now i dont see where he fits in, he drifts around making a nuisance but to what end, shoots when there is a low success from distance yet hesitates in more obvious opportunities. He is willing but not able to have the same impact he once did

True. Perhaps mancini should consider playing him a wee bit deeper as an attacking midfielder which will focus his role and require him to always look up and pick a pass, which he is incredibly good at ( as good as silva or yaya, if not better).
At the moment he seems lost as a striker but we all know what he is capable of doing so thats a positive.

 

[jauganaut]

I'm glad we won but it seems our team has hit a plateau.
Infact we have not played as well in any of our games this season as
we had last season. Thing that worries me is the glaring lack of improvement
especially the slowness if not laziness through the middle and ofcourse our strikers
can barely hit a barn door with an smg.
Let's just put it this way, if we were playing madrid, ajax or Dortmund today we
Would still have achieved same result and out on a limb, I would say worse.
I hope summer solves these problems but I think they will take more than changing
Players to solve.

christ did we lose ??

bluemoon is going to shit

I'm sorry but football is not only about winning, not to all the fans its not.
People pay money to watch a good performative
Just because you win a game does not mean there is no room for improvement
We are not playing like we could get out a champions league group
Players could barely string a few passes together, jesus some of these guys make 200, 000 pounds
a week. It is not good enough.
The standard of the premier league is what allows this complacency, small teams pay too much
respect. The teams that don't aleays get the better of us.
Everton, Sunderland, Liverpool, Ajax, dynamo, sporting to mention but a few.
Bottom line is we are playing far below consistency required to make an impact in advanced
competitions
Hope it will come with time

 

[Damocles]

Anyone without sky blue goggles on can see we are going Backwards
Premier League is shite so we can get away with giving the ball away
In Europe we have been punished by good sides
Usual flaws today, no urgency or tempo
Its not going to be Guardiola but Mancini won't take us any further!

Going backwards?
Barcelona got beat today by Real Sociedad does that mean they are going backwards? and they play the exact football you seemingly want which is high pressure/intensity football.

Today we did what we had to do to get the result, should we have ran ourselves into the ground just for the sake of it?

In Europe though I agree we need to show more urgency and up the tempo like how we played against Newcastle and Norwich etc. It is a mystery why we can't do it and spending more money in the summer isn't going to help if Mancini keeps setting the team out the same way.

That my friend, was how to have a discussion. We can agree to disagree but we all have the right to assess things. Like you say 'If Mancini keeps setting the team up this way'. This is my point, a top manager would adapt and learn from mistakes. I don't expect perfection but the manager to address the problems, if he is capable of spotting them.

No, you expect something much stupider than perfection. You've decided that there's a certain way to play and win football matches and are saying the highly qualified highly experienced professional manager is taking us backwards, not because he has a different vision of how to win, but because you've never considered that he isn't trying to match your ideal of how to play and presume he agrees with you and is just incompetent. This is a much less intelligent thing to say than asking for perfection.

 

[bluemc1]

I recommend that you guys read my earlier post in this thread about tevez.

Im sure you will all say it is a load of nonsense and i am full of crap but i still want to hear opinion about the issue i raised.

I agree with you. Tevez as the lone striker in the years we finished 5th and 3rd andwon the FA cup, was World Class. He carried the fight of a well drilled functional outfit and was worth every penny of his money. Now i dont see where he fits in, he drifts around making a nuisance but to what end, shoots when there is a low success from distance yet hesitates in more obvious opportunities. He is willing but not able to have the same impact he once did

True. Perhaps mancini should consider playing him a wee bit deeper as an attacking midfielder which will focus his role and require him to always look up and pick a pass, which he is incredibly good at ( as good as silva or yaya, if not better).
At the moment he seems lost as a striker but we all know what he is capable of doing so thats a positive.

come on people please Carlos Tevez is a world class player and im never going to be worried if he named as one of the strikers, really think some people expect to much, how good do you want someone to play until you are happy ? i wouldnt mind him playing the deeper role but for someone who works fights creates and scores like he does he MUST be on the pitch

 

[Blueband Brother]

I agree with you. Tevez as the lone striker in the years we finished 5th and 3rd andwon the FA cup, was World Class. He carried the fight of a well drilled functional outfit and was worth every penny of his money. Now i dont see where he fits in, he drifts around making a nuisance but to what end, shoots when there is a low success from distance yet hesitates in more obvious opportunities. He is willing but not able to have the same impact he once did

True. Perhaps mancini should consider playing him a wee bit deeper as an attacking midfielder which will focus his role and require him to always look up and pick a pass, which he is incredibly good at ( as good as silva or yaya, if not better).
At the moment he seems lost as a striker but we all know what he is capable of doing so thats a positive.

come on people please Carlos Tevez is a world class player and im never going to be worried if he named as one of the strikers, really think some people expect to much, how good do you want someone to play until you are happy ? i wouldnt mind him playing the deeper role but for someone who works fights creates and scores like he does he MUST be on the pitch

Arguably aguero is as hard working as tevez and can certainly boast about the stout strength, pace and centre of gravity that makes tevez physically effective. We all know Tevez is a world class player but i will like him to be completely ( as a professional) aware of the importance of linking up with other strikers and attackers to produce an attacking approach, which is smooth, flows and works. Today, we saw how that manifested when aguero came on. Last season, you saw how the design of nasri, silva , aguero and dzeko produced ample chances.
Tevez is an important player for us, indisputable but we will be even better with him looking up more often than he does.

 

[johnny on the spot]

Anyone without sky blue goggles on can see we are going Backwards
Premier League is shite so we can get away with giving the ball away
In Europe we have been punished by good sides
Usual flaws today, no urgency or tempo
Its not going to be Guardiola but Mancini won't take us any further!

Going backwards?
Barcelona got beat today by Real Sociedad does that mean they are going backwards? and they play the exact football you seemingly want which is high pressure/intensity football.

Today we did what we had to do to get the result, should we have ran ourselves into the ground just for the sake of it?

In Europe though I agree we need to show more urgency and up the tempo like how we played against Newcastle and Norwich etc. It is a mystery why we can't do it and spending more money in the summer isn't going to help if Mancini keeps setting the team out the same way.

That my friend, was how to have a discussion. We can agree to disagree but we all have the right to assess things. Like you say 'If Mancini keeps setting the team up this way'. This is my point, a top manager would adapt and learn from mistakes. I don't expect perfection but the manager to address the problems, if he is capable of spotting them.

Since when has any fucker listened to Kenny G?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

True. Perhaps mancini should consider playing him a wee bit deeper as an attacking midfielder which will focus his role and require him to always look up and pick a pass, which he is incredibly good at ( as good as silva or yaya, if not better).
At the moment he seems lost as a striker but we all know what he is capable of doing so thats a positive.

come on people please Carlos Tevez is a world class player and im never going to be worried if he named as one of the strikers, really think some people expect to much, how good do you want someone to play until you are happy ? i wouldnt mind him playing the deeper role but for someone who works fights creates and scores like he does he MUST be on the pitch

Arguably aguero is as hard working as tevez and can certainly boast about the stout strength, pace and centre of gravity that makes tevez physically effective. We all know Tevez is a world class player but i will like him to be completely ( as a professional) aware of the importance of linking up with other strikers and attackers to produce an attacking approach, which is smooth, flows and works. Today, we saw how that manifested when aguero came on. Last season, you saw how the design of nasri, silva , aguero and dzeko produced ample chances.
Tevez is an important player for us, indisputable but we will be even better with him looking up more often than he does.

And dzeko would be better if he learnt how to actually control a ball. Aguero would be better if his finishing was better and balotelli would be better if he didnt act like a twat half the time he is on the pitch.

All our strikers have ways of becoming better but in the last 2 games Tevez has created 3 of our 4 goals. That is a fact. For me that's good enough as I don't care who puts the ball in the net. The main reason we only won 2-0 today was the piss poor finishing of dzeko and aguero in the last 10 mins....

 

[blueinsa]

4 points off top, 5 wins on the bounce, 14 goals scored in that run, no goals conceded in the last 4........

Fuck me, some of the negativity on here tonight is unbelievable.