LiverpoolFan said:
Last post and im off.
Firstly, we have Kenny back. He is our most successful manager. There is no manager in world football i would have over him. He is the King.
Secondly, Liverpool always bounces back. Istanbul- Game Over. No chance of winning. And i think we all know what happened there. Our club was almost out of business 14 months ago. We bounced back and now we are competing for 4th. Most clubs would take 5 or so years to recover.
Thirdly, Kenny has built the spine for a team, he did this in his last spell. Henderson, Adam, Downing, Carroll aren't world beaters. But they will work hard and give us the British spine we used to have. Now he is adding the flair players and potential superstars. Suarez and Coates. Now i dont give a shit what you think of Suarez (racist or NOT) you have to admit he is a fucking good footballer. Coates is an unknown talent but was young player of Copa America and players such as Neymar, who everyone loves and is the 'new' Messi.
Fourthly, we have a good structure and youth setup. Players such as Suso, Morgan, Sterling and Wisdom can all be world class footballers. We also have good owners, they arent afraid of making decisions and have money to spend.
So, don't think you've killed us yet. We WILL take back our fucking perch!
Firstly, it is all well and good having your most successful manager ever return to the club, but that doesn't gaurentee he is going to replicate that level of success. He isn't producing anything like the sort of win rate he was during his spell in the late 80s because, well, you aren't as good. You aren't the only one who feels they have the perfect man for the job. Roberto is a winner, he leaves a trail of trophies and has us playing football that has seen us score the most and concede the least, a combination 'King' Kenny will struggle to get right for many a year.
Secondly, on what basis would most clubs take 5 years to recover from that if they were taken over and given a sizeable transfer kitty by new wealthy owners. We went from 10th to 3rd and winning our first trophy in over 30 years in the space of 2 years. You see with the right people in place you can do just about anything in the space of 5 years. We've done exactly what your trying to do now, except we've done it better. Let's not pretend that finishing 6th in 2011, spending large sums of money then 20 games in looking right on track for an impressive 6th place finish in 2012 is worthy of praise.
Thirdly, a strong spine will stand you in good stead, unfortunately the 4 players you mentioned aren't really ever going to make a world class spine. I would say Reina, Agger, Lucas, Adam, Carroll is a decent spine, nothing to pull your face at certainly, but compare it to Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero and you begin to realise how far Liverpool still have to come. You've not recovered from anything yet, you've bought decent players when the teams your trying to catch have world class players. Granted Saurez is a quality footballer atleast.
Fourthly, congratulations on those youngsters, you will certainly know more about them than I do; but lets not just reel off 4 youngsters and say they can become world class, when is the last time you brought 4 world class players through your youth set-up. Judge them when they are breaking into the side of atleast making your existing players look over their shoulders. You should also note the recent plans for our youth set-up, another area you will be playing catch up from even further behind.
Finally, nobody thinks they have killed you, infact, we didn't even need to, you haven't really looked like threatening throughout our rise, so perhaps your 'beef' needs to be taken elsewhere. What I will say is in just about every positive area you just mentioned, you are already playing catch-up with us. It's never a good sign if your not even the best in your suposed areas of strength.
