CL Revenues & Coefficients

CL revenue was £113.9m for 22/23 according to Swiss Ramble.
Approx £1m less than our record high in 2021.

IIRC the split between PL and CL was also in the accounts
SwissRamble uses € not £. It was £98m in the last accounts. And the reason it was slightly higher in 2021 was that, yet again, our dear neighbours crashed out at the group stage, giving the other 3 PL clubs more of the market pool.

You can't say they're not considerate neighbours.
 
Excellent !

Did I read that correctly? £60m for getting 4 points and winning one game in their group?

My god no wonder teams clamour to get in the top 4!
 
Excellent !

Did I read that correctly? £60m for getting 4 points and winning one game in their group?

My god no wonder teams clamour to get in the top 4!
United better pray us and Liverpool go deep in our competitions, it not win the lot, as their only chance of them scraping back into it is if there is a top five place (and even then I think there are five better teams than them).
 
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Excellent !

Did I read that correctly? £60m for getting 4 points and winning one game in their group?

My god no wonder teams clamour to get in the top 4!
No wonder a certain 3 teams were creaming domestic football for 20+ years, you'd almost call it a monopoly, but they would call it self-earned money, hmm.

Anyway our turn now, rake it in boys, rake it in.
 
Just had an email from SwissRamble, whose blog I subscribe to, with his estimate of the CL revenue we'll have earned to date. It can only be an estimate as, while some of it is fixed for all clubs based on performance, much is based on the distribution from the 'market pool' and that depends on how far each club gets relative to its national fellow CL participants. So the fact that both united and Newcastle have gone out of the knock-out stage is great for us and Arsenal, as we get to share more of the available pot. If Arsenal were to go out in R16, and we were to get to the final and win it again, we'd have a bumper payday, probably in excess of £100m, compared to the approximately £98m we got for winning it last season.

He reckons we've already guaranteed ourselves around €95m/£82m (including his estimate of the market pool) while united are on €60m. These figures are only UEFA prize money and don't include any ticket or commercial revenue.

As things stand with club coefficients, we're the top club in the main 5-year coefficient table, 5-year Coefficients with 141 points, with Bayern second on 136, then Real Madrid on 123, PSG on 108 and Liverpool on 103. united are in 9th place with 92 and will probably drop about 10 places over the next two years. That would probably see them in Pot 3 if they qualify for the CL.

The history clubs forced through the concept of a 10-year coefficient a few years ago, thinking that would protect part of their revenue stream even if they won nothing for a few years. However that backfired, and we're now 4th in that table, behind Real Madrid, Bayern and Barcelona. If we win it this season then we'd probably overtake Barca, but we are now the top English club in the 10-year rankings. united will plunge down that table over the next couple of years, down to around 25-30th place probably.

From a UEFA point of view at least, Manchester most definitely is Blue.

I’m sure there will be a balanced article in the tabloids, maybe even a segment on sky ports news or the overlap…

I’ll keep an eye out for Cheat mode & moneybags in the headlines.
 
United better pray us and Liverpool go deep in our competitions, it not win the lot, as their only chance of them scraping back into it is if their is a top five place (and even then I think there are five better teams than them).
English clubs winning the trophies this season might not be enough to guarantee the fifth CL spot after the rags and geordies disastrous campaigns. It’s going to need most of the surviving teams to go deep in their competitions.
City and Arsenal both going out in the SF would be more helpful to the England coefficient than us lifting the trophy but them going out in the round of 16.
If they finish fifth and miss out, a big part of it is down to their own inadequacies this season.
 
Just had an email from SwissRamble, whose blog I subscribe to, with his estimate of the CL revenue we'll have earned to date. It can only be an estimate as, while some of it is fixed for all clubs based on performance, much is based on the distribution from the 'market pool' and that depends on how far each club gets relative to its national fellow CL participants. So the fact that both united and Newcastle have gone out of the knock-out stage is great for us and Arsenal, as we get to share more of the available pot. If Arsenal were to go out in R16, and we were to get to the final and win it again, we'd have a bumper payday, probably in excess of £100m, compared to the approximately £98m we got for winning it last season.

He reckons we've already guaranteed ourselves around €95m/£82m (including his estimate of the market pool) while united are on €60m. These figures are only UEFA prize money and don't include any ticket or commercial revenue.

As things stand with club coefficients, we're the top club in the main 5-year coefficient table, 5-year Coefficients with 141 points, with Bayern second on 136, then Real Madrid on 123, PSG on 108 and Liverpool on 103. united are in 9th place with 92 and will probably drop about 10 places over the next two years. That would probably see them in Pot 3 if they qualify for the CL.

The history clubs forced through the concept of a 10-year coefficient a few years ago, thinking that would protect part of their revenue stream even if they won nothing for a few years. However that backfired, and we're now 4th in that table, behind Real Madrid, Bayern and Barcelona. If we win it this season then we'd probably overtake Barca, but we are now the top English club in the 10-year rankings. united will plunge down that table over the next couple of years, down to around 25-30th place probably.

From a UEFA point of view at least, Manchester most definitely is Blue.
Need to make sure we are in it next season Girona, as it stands, would be and we wouldn’t due to the multi club rule
 
English clubs winning the trophies this season might not be enough to guarantee the fifth CL spot after the rags and geordies disastrous campaigns. It’s going to need most of the surviving teams to go deep in their competitions.
City and Arsenal both going out in the SF would be more helpful to the England coefficient than us lifting the trophy but them going out in the round of 16.
If they finish fifth and miss out, a big part of it is down to their own inadequacies this season.
England have already sealed number one spot in the club coefficients used for 2024/25 and 99% certain to be number 1 for 2025/26. For another team to get top raking they need all English teams to lose remaining games (6 teams left) and Spain or Italy to set a record number of points for a season. Italy would need over 31 points and their record is 22 this century.

It will take a disaster to affect us in 2026/27.
 

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