Clarke Carlisle

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

Baffled why he evokes so much negativity on here - that was only tempered not put to one side when he is presumed all-but-dead at one point - simply because people dont rate him in his line of work.

Anyone who knows Clarke, or who has had any dealings with him, will testify that he is a genuinely nice and decent fella with no edge to him. Thinks of others and is a gent.

There are so many arrogant, thoroughly dislikable wankers in football I cant for the life of me understand why this thread has such vitriol.

Seems you all really really take it to heart if someone is considered a bit boring when doing football commentaries.

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

 

[scall11]

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

I think it's fairly well understood, or I thought it was, that if you're contemplating suicide then obviously you're not thinking of others. A tremendously naive way of looking at it. Rational thinking is way beyond you if you're in the realm of contenplating suicide.

I'll back up what Lucky Toma says. If people get so wound about him because of the sound of his voice, then that's worrying. He's done so much for the PFA, Kick it Out, Just a Ball Game, for the Inclusion Advisory Board and a ton of other things. Met him a few times and he is just really, really nice person.

Football needs people like Clarke.

 

[RandomJ]

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

I think it's fairly well understood, or I thought it was, that if you're contemplating suicide then obviously you're not thinking of others. A tremendously naive way of looking at it. Rational thinking is way beyond you if you're in the realm of contenplating suicide.

Just shows the shocking lack of education there is about mental illness. Twitter is always the worst for stupid comments on it. Most people have probably felt down in the dumps at some point in their life and think that gives them the right to comment on it but unless you have stood there on the brink where the faint light at the end of the tunnel has vanished and all that is left is darkness then you really don't know what you're talking about. Hope he gets the help he needs.

 

[yeseye]

He's obviously got demons as he has attempted suicide before, hope he can overcome them.
I can't understand people calling him a thick twat tbh, he got 10 grade A GCSE in school, went to college in London and got a masters degree at uni in sports science something or other. I think the lad has done quite well for himself tbh especially with the mental health issues he must have. Suicide is a horrible thing for all concerned .

 

[willipp]

Ive got a friend who knows him relatively well and his persona on the telly is very very different to what he is like away from the cameras. He comes across quite positive on the telly but away from it he clearly has severe mental health issues and i hope he pulls through and can make a recovery. Must be a horrific time for his family, especially at this time of year, so all my thoughts with him and his family.

 

[oakiecokie]

Baffled why he evokes so much negativity on here - that was only tempered not put to one side when he is presumed all-but-dead at one point - simply because people dont rate him in his line of work.

Anyone who knows Clarke, or who has had any dealings with him, will testify that he is a genuinely nice and decent fella with no edge to him. Thinks of others and is a gent.

There are so many arrogant, thoroughly dislikable wankers in football I cant for the life of me understand why this thread has such vitriol.

Seems you all really really take it to heart if someone is considered a bit boring when doing football commentaries.

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

 

[mcfclovin88]

Baffled why he evokes so much negativity on here - that was only tempered not put to one side when he is presumed all-but-dead at one point - simply because people dont rate him in his line of work.

Anyone who knows Clarke, or who has had any dealings with him, will testify that he is a genuinely nice and decent fella with no edge to him. Thinks of others and is a gent.

There are so many arrogant, thoroughly dislikable wankers in football I cant for the life of me understand why this thread has such vitriol.

Seems you all really really take it to heart if someone is considered a bit boring when doing football commentaries.

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

Well put oakie.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Baffled why he evokes so much negativity on here - that was only tempered not put to one side when he is presumed all-but-dead at one point - simply because people dont rate him in his line of work.

Anyone who knows Clarke, or who has had any dealings with him, will testify that he is a genuinely nice and decent fella with no edge to him. Thinks of others and is a gent.

There are so many arrogant, thoroughly dislikable wankers in football I cant for the life of me understand why this thread has such vitriol.

Seems you all really really take it to heart if someone is considered a bit boring when doing football commentaries.

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

Wio has stated that he has suffered from depression so perhaps DOES have some clue. One of the worst things about mental illness is the generalisation that everyone suffers in the same way - they don't, it's very personal. Whilst it is often a cry for help, many people who attempt suicide do so with others in mind and do display rational thought even if the act itself seems irrational.

 

[oakiecokie]

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

Wio has stated that he has suffered from depression so perhaps DOES have some clue. One of the worst things about mental illness is the generalisation that everyone suffers in the same way - they don't, it's very personal. Whilst it is often a cry for help, many people who attempt suicide do so with others in mind and do display rational thought even if the act itself seems irrational.

Having suffered for nigh on 30 years with depression and panic attacks,I too have some knowledge of this terrible illness.You are quite correct that everyone suffers in a different way,but with suicidal tendencies everything rational is just thrown out of the window.

 

[Manc in London]

Baffled why he evokes so much negativity on here - that was only tempered not put to one side when he is presumed all-but-dead at one point - simply because people dont rate him in his line of work.

Anyone who knows Clarke, or who has had any dealings with him, will testify that he is a genuinely nice and decent fella with no edge to him. Thinks of others and is a gent.

There are so many arrogant, thoroughly dislikable wankers in football I cant for the life of me understand why this thread has such vitriol.

Seems you all really really take it to heart if someone is considered a bit boring when doing football commentaries.

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

It is clear why some people may regard suicide as a selfish act. What many people don't appreciate is that it is an act of desperation rather than selfishness.

I disagree with your point that people who have mental health issues do not think rationally. They often do but will sometimes think irrationally.

 

[oakiecokie]

If as is being suggested this was a suicide attempt, then he is certainly not thinking of others, his family, the lorry driver...he could possibly have caused a serious accident involving others. I understand depression is a awful affliction as I have suffered from it for years, but if you really have to do away with yourself don't possibly ruin other unassociated peoples life on your way to doing it.

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

It is clear why some people may regard suicide as a selfish act. What many people don't appreciate is that it is an act of desperation rather than selfishness.

I disagree with your point that people who have mental health issues do not think rationally. They often do but will sometimes think irrationally.

Yes I should have worded my comments ref metal health issues and rationality somewhat better.You are correct that in some cases this is not the case,but obviously CC,not for the first time has suicidal tendencies and desperation then takes over,with only one thing in mind ... you as an individual.

 

[Pearcey]

Awful situation, for him and his family. I hope whatever happens he finds some peace.

 

[Manc in London]

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

It is clear why some people may regard suicide as a selfish act. What many people don't appreciate is that it is an act of desperation rather than selfishness.

I disagree with your point that people who have mental health issues do not think rationally. They often do but will sometimes think irrationally.

Yes I should have worded my comments ref metal health issues and rationality somewhat better.You are correct that in some cases this is not the case,but obviously CC,not for the first time has suicidal tendencies and desperation then takes over,with only one thing in mind ... you as an individual.

No worries. Just to clarify, I wasn't point scoring. Depression is an issue close to my heart as my best friend of 23 years took his own life because of the illness. I also found a friend of a friend hanging in the house my mates and I was renting when I was a student.

 

[mosssideblue]

Awful situation, for him and his family. I hope whatever happens he finds some peace.

+1

 

[Matty]

If this was, indeed, a suicide attempt, then being severely injured, with possibly life changing damage to his body, affecting potentially his mental capacity and/or his physical mobility, isn't exactly going to help in that regard. If he thought he was depressed and as low as he could get before then I suspect potentially being unable to walk, or feed himself, or string together a coherent sentence might put that into perspective somewhat. His , alleged, attempt to end it all could well have sentenced himself to a lifetime of far worse suffering and misery.

 

[Sergeant Sergio]

Been lurking for a while but had to sign up say how sad this is

a great commentator and a wonderful presence in the game for black players and officials, really hope he pulls through

 

[Tbilisi]

You havn`t got a clue what you are talking about.Mental issues are an awful illness and the last thing anyone who suffers with this are rational thoughts.

It is clear why some people may regard suicide as a selfish act. What many people don't appreciate is that it is an act of desperation rather than selfishness.

I disagree with your point that people who have mental health issues do not think rationally. They often do but will sometimes think irrationally.

Yes I should have worded my comments ref metal health issues and rationality somewhat better.You are correct that in some cases this is not the case,but obviously CC,not for the first time has suicidal tendencies and desperation then takes over,with only one thing in mind ... you as an individual.

Agree apart from the last part,my view is that the individual feels no worth and believes they are in fact the cause of all their loved ones problems so it is not a self interest act.A friend of mine took his life when he had financial problems....he believed the insurance on his death would take care of his families problems.

 

[DiscoSteve]

Although I think he is whinging so and so with a one-policy-agenda who annoys the f*ck out of me, I hope he recovers OK

 

[growl]

Although I think he is whinging so and so with a one-policy-agenda who annoys the f*ck out of me, I hope he recovers OK

If this stupidity represents Blue Moon in any way shape or form, count me out.

 

[oakiecokie]

It is clear why some people may regard suicide as a selfish act. What many people don't appreciate is that it is an act of desperation rather than selfishness.

I disagree with your point that people who have mental health issues do not think rationally. They often do but will sometimes think irrationally.

Yes I should have worded my comments ref metal health issues and rationality somewhat better.You are correct that in some cases this is not the case,but obviously CC,not for the first time has suicidal tendencies and desperation then takes over,with only one thing in mind ... you as an individual.

No worries. Just to clarify, I wasn't point scoring. Depression is an issue close to my heart as my best friend of 23 years took his own life because of the illness. I also found a friend of a friend hanging in the house my mates and I was renting when I was a student.

WOW Mate you have had it rough with two people close to you and likewise there is no way I would ever think of trying to point score and I certainly never thought about your comments as anything but.
Horrible illness as I keep saying and my best mates son killed himself some 14 years ago after suffering 10+ years of severe depression and hearing voices.