Clarkson Suspended by BBC

chabal said:
Damocles said:
I know that this is a heavily popular show worldwide, watched by hundreds of millions of people, but Im so self important that I believe any entertainment that isn't personally to my taste should be immediately scrapped. I understand that entertainment is subjective but my tastes coincidentally happen to be correct

As a licence fee payer I do believe I have the right to express an opinion as to how my money is spent.
You didn't really think that one through did you.

The BBC makes real profit from Top Gear (unlike most of its programming).

There is an argument the license fee would be more expensive without it.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
over 300,000 now, mad...
And the rest

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SWP's back said:
chabal said:
Damocles said:
I know that this is a heavily popular show worldwide, watched by hundreds of millions of people, but Im so self important that I believe any entertainment that isn't personally to my taste should be immediately scrapped. I understand that entertainment is subjective but my tastes coincidentally happen to be correct

As a licence fee payer I do believe I have the right to express an opinion as to how my money is spent.
You didn't really think that one through did you.

The BBC makes real profit from Top Gear (unlike most of its programming).

There is an argument the license fee would be more expensive without it.

So as licence fee payer I am not allowed to express an opinion?

So the logic here is;

X is popular.

Therefore X should not be challenged.

It is this logic which has previously allowed all sorts of unscrupulous behaviour to manifest itself in a variety of organisations.
 
chabal said:
SWP's back said:
chabal said:
As a licence fee payer I do believe I have the right to express an opinion as to how my money is spent.
You didn't really think that one through did you.

The BBC makes real profit from Top Gear (unlike most of its programming).

There is an argument the license fee would be more expensive without it.

So as licence fee payer I am not allowed to express an opinion?

So the logic here is;

X is popular.

Therefore X should not be challenged.

It is this logic which has previously allowed all sorts of unscrupulous behaviour to manifest itself in a variety of organisations.
You may express any opinion you wish, as everyone can. But stating that you may express it for the reason that you are a license fee payer is bollocks reasoning as Top Gear costs the license fee payer nothing, zero, zilch. So you don't pay for any of it. It would be like saying "well as a tax payer I am against Premier League Football" as it costs money to police it - forgetting that Premier League Football brings in far more for UK Plc than it takes out.

Without Top Gear, the license fee would either have to be higher or the BBC would have a smaller budget.
 
SWP's back said:
chabal said:
Damocles said:
I know that this is a heavily popular show worldwide, watched by hundreds of millions of people, but Im so self important that I believe any entertainment that isn't personally to my taste should be immediately scrapped. I understand that entertainment is subjective but my tastes coincidentally happen to be correct

As a licence fee payer I do believe I have the right to express an opinion as to how my money is spent.
You didn't really think that one through did you.

The BBC makes real profit from Top Gear (unlike most of its programming).

There is an argument the license fee would be more expensive without it.

The Licence fee is far too low. It should be at least £400. For the excellent service the BBC provides I'd gladly sell my house and all it's contents
 
From a friend of a friend of a friend so take this with a lorryload of salt driven by the Stig but apparently Clarkson in private is a decent bloke and the persona he displays in public is an act. Trouble is he's overegged the public persona so much it's got out of hand.

The BBC are in a no win situation here. If they keep him on the Mail and others are going to be screaming blue murder about the Beeb continuing to employ someone who assaulted a colleague. If they fire him the Mail and co are going to go berserk at them not providing value for money for the licence fee. Top Gear is probably their biggest money spinner next to Doctor Who.

For my money I don't really mind Clarkson as I've convinced myself it's all just an act but if the allegations are true and he's thrown digs at a superior (and a producer is his boss) he's gone. If you or I did it we'd be gone in 20 minutes and we'd only last that long as that's how long it would take HR to do the paperwork. But in a couple of months "A reminder here on Sky One, the new season of Game of Thrones continues on Thursday. But first a new motoring series presented by some familiar faces: High Gear!"
 
I wonder how many that are saying he has to go for throwing a punch at a colleague said the same for Balotelli, Richards, Mancini et al?
 
SWP's back said:
I wonder how many that are saying he has to go for throwing a punch at a colleague said the same for Balotelli, Richards, Manchini et al?

On the Bob one they would have wanted the bloke he hit sent to the salt mines forever for possibly damaging his beautiful knuckles.
 
Balti said:
SWP's back said:
chabal said:
As a licence fee payer I do believe I have the right to express an opinion as to how my money is spent.
You didn't really think that one through did you.

The BBC makes real profit from Top Gear (unlike most of its programming).

There is an argument the license fee would be more expensive without it.

The Licence fee is far too low. It should be at least £400. For the excellent service the BBC provides I'd gladly sell my house and all it's contents

^^^ Not the Nine o Clock News....quality reference!
 
blueinsa said:
SWP's back said:
I wonder how many that are saying he has to go for throwing a punch at a colleague said the same for Balotelli, Richards, Manchini et al?

On the Bob one they would have wanted the bloke he hit sent to the salt mines forever for possibly damaging his beautiful knuckles.

those knuckles were lovely though.......(sigh).......
 
Zuriblue said:
From a friend of a friend of a friend so take this with a lorryload of salt driven by the Stig but apparently Clarkson in private is a decent bloke and the persona he displays in public is an act. Trouble is he's overegged the public persona so much it's got out of hand.

The BBC are in a no win situation here. If they keep him on the Mail and others are going to be screaming blue murder about the Beeb continuing to employ someone who assaulted a colleague. If they fire him the Mail and co are going to go berserk at them not providing value for money for the licence fee. Top Gear is probably their biggest money spinner next to Doctor Who.

For my money I don't really mind Clarkson as I've convinced myself it's all just an act but if the allegations are true and he's thrown digs at a superior (and a producer is his boss) he's gone. If you or I did it we'd be gone in 20 minutes and we'd only last that long as that's how long it would take HR to do the paperwork. But in a couple of months "A reminder here on Sky One, the new season of Game of Thrones continues on Thursday. But first a new motoring series presented by some familiar faces: High Gear!"

Won't be sky one that channel is dog shit!

ITV is too obsessed with reality TV and can't make anything decent with even the slightest bit of factual content so they're out. Can't see Clarkson working with channel 5 it's just too big a step down so that leaves channel 4 which is a big maybe.

Maybe TG USA will get them after all. Or they'll realise in truth the programme is past it and start branching off into other things.
 
without a dream said:
If he's actually punched someone the BBC's hands are tied surely? He has to go.
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!
 
blue underpants said:
without a dream said:
If he's actually punched someone the BBC's hands are tied surely? He has to go.
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!

Did you have the right to appeal?
 
blue underpants said:
without a dream said:
If he's actually punched someone the BBC's hands are tied surely? He has to go.
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!

I worked at an upholsterer's when I was 16 and unruly members of staff were stripped, stapled to the floor and had their balls blacked with the stuff we used to shine the leather on the sofas. Such happy innocent times.
 
chabal said:
blue underpants said:
without a dream said:
If he's actually punched someone the BBC's hands are tied surely? He has to go.
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!

Did you have the right to appeal?
Lol, no chance, they liked shaving bollocks those slaughtermen, they had been sfter me and the other lad for weeks as we had managed to dodge the initiation ceremony!
 
blue underpants said:
chabal said:
blue underpants said:
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!

Did you have the right to appeal?
Lol, no chance, they liked shaving bollocks those slaughtermen, they had been sfter me and the other lad for weeks as we had managed to dodge the initiation ceremony!

Having your bollocks shaved by slaughtermen?

Sounds like an episode of Game of Thrones.

Where's Theon Greyjoy?
 
stony said:
blue underpants said:
without a dream said:
If he's actually punched someone the BBC's hands are tied surely? He has to go.
Can't they just do what they did to me and another young lad when we worked a Manchester Abattoir, we had an argument about who was going to slit the throat of a great big fat sow and it came to pushing and shoving and slight fisticuffs, being very young lads the older and wiser slaughtermen taught us a lesson, we were stripped down to our keks and hung upside down by chains used to tether pigs with, had offal and blood slung all over us then doused with cold water and then had our bollocks shaved
This was working class justice and the bosses just stood there and watched pissing themselves, it certainly taught 2 hothead 15 year old kids a harsh lesson, it was the early 70s though!

I worked at an upholsterer's when I was 16 and unruly members of staff were stripped, stapled to the floor and had their balls blacked with the stuff we used to shine the leather on the sofas. Such happy innocent times.
Never happen now mate, innocence has gone along with fun
 
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The petition has reached 300 million now according to the beeb...Accurate reporting and all that..
 

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