Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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I don't think Bravo will ever be accepted by the fans so it is probably better for all parties that he moves on in the Summer. The Hart fan boys won't ever take to him and his errors and all round poor shot stopping ability have turned others against him.

He wasn't totally at fault for the goal last night. I would put the collective blame for that goal on the midfield and defence as it was poor to allow a player to have that much space. He should have perhaps saved it but he wasn't the only one at fault.

The defence was all over the place all night for me. I really don't like this Otamendi and Stones partnership and the full backs aren't good enough. Zabaleta was very poor defensively last night but did add to the attack as did Clichy for once.
 
No one was booing Bravo, we're mostly talking about a set of fans jeering at away fans/team when Bravo makes saves. Not sticking up for them, but I've never heard anyone openly boo Bravo at a game. We're not that bad.
 
He's an easy target given Joe's rapport with the fans - he's better than people make out and far far better at distribution than either Willy or Joe - but he's not a good shot stopper and he should have saved the goal last night - am gradually coming to terms with the fact that if you attack like we do it will leave you open at the back and we will concede goals but we will score more than we let in and its a team effort. Booing is crap though.
 
its a Barm said:
BBC give us time and credit, behave.
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I think Sinclair mentioned the chip and they discussed his attributes as in the passes he made. I do not remember any discussion of the whole love that led to that 4th goal. The move was started before it even got to Bravo.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I don't think Bravo will ever be accepted by the fans so it is probably better for all parties that he moves on in the Summer. The Hart fan boys won't ever take to him and his errors and all round poor shot stopping ability have turned others against him.

He wasn't totally at fault for the goal last night. I would put the collective blame for that goal on the midfield and defence as it was poor to allow a player to have that much space. He should have perhaps saved it but he wasn't the only one at fault.

The defence was all over the place all night for me. I really don't like this Otamendi and Stones partnership and the full backs aren't good enough. Zabaleta was very poor defensively last night but did add to the attack as did Clichy for once.
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That's fuck all to do with the booing of Bravo,and mentioning Zabba in the thread,makes it even more laughable,so you saying he should have been booed or jeered for putiing in a poor performance in your opinion ?
 
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Some around us were ironically cheering, not booing. I didn't hear anybody boo the player. I'm of the thinking that if that is how they want to air their frustration at his performances so far, that's up to them. They looked and sounded quite silly if the truth be told, but they've paid their money and have a right to do or say what they feel fit to voice their opinion. As someone said above, the sooner Bravo goes the better for all concerned. He isn't a good goal keeper in what the job entails and I can't see where a string of performances are going to come from to change that.
I'm sure he's big, daft and ugly enough to understand the fans' frustration at his time here so far.
Stuart.
 
For all his passing out from the back and the chances he starts. He's letting in too many goals and is a liability
 
karen7 said:
I was thinking about this morning,he was fine until he was sent off and since then he doesn't really come out much but stays at home and gets his angles wrong,he needs to relax and play his natural game,the crowd really need to get off his back
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His confidence also seemed to take a dip after the Burnley goal. He's had a "what am I doing here" expression ever since. Just dont think he likes the PL.
 
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Originally posted in bravo booing thread but that's closed.

Some around us were ironically cheering, not booing. I didn't hear any boos for the player to be honest.

Not great behaviour but they've paid their money to give themselves a right to air their obvious frustration. I'm sure the player is big and tough enough to understand why that frustration is there.

As said by someone in the other thread, it's best for all concerned that he leaves in the summer. He isn't going to get any better in my opinion and the anamosity from some fans will only grow.
Stuart.
 
karen7 said:
Shock horror the opposition are going to get shots on goal,thats what the keeper is for,most shots at him are a goal,that was lame tonite
On the plus side he does have good distribution but that doesn't make up for not saving shots
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It did make up for it tonight.
 
Benarbia said:
For all his passing out from the back and the chances he starts. He's letting in too many goals and is a liability
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Passing out of the back is not just about starting chances. When a team is under the kind of press they put on us the first 30 minutes last night, a keeper like Bravo will save goals with his distribution. We saw Willy literally create a goal for Monaco because he is neither good with his feet nor does he read the game in front of him as well as Bravo. The average football fan won't understand this obviously...
 
Maybe I'm doing a disservice to his professionalism and character but I fully expect him to have a couple of negative things to say about us once he leaves or hangs up his boots.

Like I said, he might not but I'd fully understand if he did. A huge portion (or at least, a very gobby portion) of our fanbase has been laying into him since day one, offered zero support and have sat in the stands dying for him to make a mistake.

The sarcastic cheers for his save and when he caught a cross were absolutely pathetic. If the cheers happened once or twice, then you could put it down to a bit of banter but, when it happens game after game, it comes across as petty in the extreme. Not only does it make us look disloyal and small time, but any potential future acquisitions could easily be watching that and thinking "what a bunch of ****s". And, although the idea of someone saying that about my club might put me on the defensive, I wouldn't be able disagree.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Maybe I'm doing a disservice to his professionalism and character but I fully expect him to have a couple of negative things to say about us once he leaves or hangs up his boots.

Like I said, he might not but I'd fully understand if he did. A huge portion (or at least, a very gobby portion) of our fanbase has been laying into him since day one, offered zero support and have sat in the stands dying for him to make a mistake.

The sarcastic cheers for his save and when he caught a cross were absolutely pathetic. If the cheers happened once or twice, then you could put it down to a bit of banter but, when it happens game after game, it comes across as petty in the extreme. Not only does it make us look disloyal and small time, but any potential future acquisitions could easily be watching that and thinking "what a bunch of ****s". And, although the idea of someone saying that about my club might put me on the defensive, I wouldn't be able disagree.
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Do me a favour fans are the same the world over, Ronaldo gets proper grief at times from the fans at Real despite consistently being one of the best players in the world. If any player chooses not to come because some fans choose to ironically cheer a save from a keeper who has been almost exclusively cack since he joined us then they'd be mental but it wouldn't happen because it's utter bollocks. Some fans never gave him a chance when he arrived which is disappointing but I think the majority of supporters are being pretty patient with him considering. As for Bravo having negative things to say about the club, he'll look ridiculous if he does. The whole world knows he has been playing incredibly poorly, if he chooses to cry about getting a bit of what is essentially low level grief then he will just look a massive fanny. He'd look much better if he just clears off with the millions he has barely earned and keeps his counsel.
 
Busmo Funbag said:
Do me a favour fans are the same the world over, Ronaldo gets proper grief at times from the fans at Real despite consistently being one of the best players in the world. If any player chooses not to come because some fans choose to ironically cheer a save from a keeper who has been almost exclusively cack since he joined us then they'd be mental but it wouldn't happen because it's utter bollocks. Some fans never gave him a chance when he arrived which is disappointing but I think the majority of supporters are being pretty patient with him considering. As for Bravo having negative things to say about the club, he'll look ridiculous if he does. The whole world knows he has been playing incredibly poorly, if he chooses to cry about getting a bit of what is essentially low level grief then he will just look a massive fanny. He'd look much better if he just clears off with the millions he has barely earned and keeps his counsel.
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Sadly I think you are correct. I used to think City fans were special with our self deprecating humour but clearly it was just a strategy to deal with being a bit shit.

We are no better/worse than rags, scouse etc and the treatment of Bravo. In days gone by we would have loved him for what he is and supported him all the more. Now we just sneer.

Sad really.
 
dave_blue12 said:
Sadly I think you are correct. I used to think City fans were special with our self deprecating humour but clearly it was just a strategy to deal with being a bit shit.

We are no better/worse than rags, scouse etc and the treatment of Bravo. In days gone by we would have loved him for what he is and supported him all the more. Now we just sneer.

Sad really.
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Are we fuck as like a special fan base in that sense. We fucking tormented Edgehill at times and he was a blue like us.

Every club has some fans who do it, so do ours.
 
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