Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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He hasn't made a save since the first week of Jan.
When Stones makes errors Pep is quick to drop or " rotate" Him out of the side, even Aguero has been on the bench, yet Bravo is seemingly beyond reproach.
Bravo needs to acclimatise, let him do it behind closed doors until he can fill Joes boots, Hart may have had the odd shonky game, but he dug us out of many games with some great saves at the top level in CL games, that's even before I mention Willy's heroics in the final last year.
I'm all for supporting players, but being able to pass a ball is only a small part of the modern keepers game, he is required to actually make some saves and "keep goal" not just "sweep goal" or pick it out if the back of the net.
Bravo has been woeful, I don't need stats to back up what my eyes have seen, and opposition teams will gladly target him, knowing that a shot on goal has a very good chance of going in.
Sorry.... not good enough.


But he's not making errors, that's the point. He is simply not bailing his team out with World class saves.

I await the opposition targeting him. I'm sure we'll notice an increase in people shooting when clean through and taking more shots with a clear sight at goal from 7 yards...

Do you not think teams are targeting him? He's small and new to the league. We have a small team. Yet we are concededing very very few goals from teams targeting him.
 
look forward to Claudio winning the golden gloves here like our previous keeper did.

So you should, he is our keeper. Seems a pretty disingenuous hope though. I suspect you'd be much happier for him to fail and you got to look cool on the Internet.
 
So you should, he is our keeper. Seems a pretty disingenuous hope though. I suspect you'd be much happier for him to fail and you got to look cool on the Internet.
more insults do not want to look cool just want pep to wake up and see what most city fans can see that Claudio simply is not good enough. Pep will see that in his own good time. I hope his stubbornness does not cost a place in the top 4 or a good tilt at the champions league. the only other player I have taken against is bony I can usually see the good in most of our players. I am not a serial slagger off of our players. can you Claudio lovers seriously not see that he his technique is just not good enough. Barcelona is a different place to Manchester city.
 
more insults do not want to look cool just want pep to wake up and see what most city fans can see that Claudio simply is not good enough. Pep will see that in his own good time. I hope his stubbornness does not cost a place in the top 4 or a good tilt at the champions league. the only other player I have taken against is bony I can usually see the good in most of our players. I am not a serial slagger off of our players. can you Claudio lovers seriously not see that he his technique is just not good enough. Barcelona is a different place to Manchester city.
He's very similar in ability goalkeeping wise to Nigel Gleghorn
 
'This time next year '
Where have i heard that before?........

de Gea, a few times with Courtois and Chelsea last season are examples. Both clubs backed their keepers were struggling. Lloris wasn't great to begin with either. The scousers backed Reina for years.
 
more insults do not want to look cool just want pep to wake up and see what most city fans can see that Claudio simply is not good enough. Pep will see that in his own good time. I hope his stubbornness does not cost a place in the top 4 or a good tilt at the champions league. the only other player I have taken against is bony I can usually see the good in most of our players. I am not a serial slagger off of our players. can you Claudio lovers seriously not see that he his technique is just not good enough. Barcelona is a different place to Manchester city.


Sorry, I think you're talking nonsense and you're going to very disappointed if you think Pep will get rid.
He's doing exactly what Pep wants and exactly the job he was bought to do.
If that escapes you, or doesn't sit well with you, then all I can say is chin up..

Have you ever thought Pep might think a bit different, see the game a bit different to a few posters on bluemoon? To Paul Merson?

As for insults? You'll have to highlight where I've insulted you!
Everyone one of your posts highlights just how determined you are to be right and unwilling you are to listen to any counter opinion.
You've shown nothing constructive or worthy or discussion, you've simply insulted the lad and shown no desire or hope of improvement in him.

Claudio's record would suggest he's easily good enough and his performance to date certainly don't represent his very best form, nor do they suggest he should be victim of so little support.

I'm personally going to support and give time to a keeper who's widely considered amongst the very best in the World outside of this tiny xenophobic backwater that is England and the decision of the very best manager in the World.
 
more insults do not want to look cool just want pep to wake up and see what most city fans can see that Claudio simply is not good enough. Pep will see that in his own good time. I hope his stubbornness does not cost a place in the top 4 or a good tilt at the champions league. the only other player I have taken against is bony I can usually see the good in most of our players. I am not a serial slagger off of our players. can you Claudio lovers seriously not see that he his technique is just not good enough. Barcelona is a different place to Manchester city.
How have you been on here since 2nd August 2010 and only posted 168 times?
Every time I pop on here the thread is full of your posts.
 
Sorry, I think you're talking nonsense and you're going to very disappointed if you think Pep will get rid.
He's doing exactly what Pep wants and exactly the job he was bought to do.
If that escapes you, or doesn't sit well with you, then all I can say is chin up..

Have you ever thought Pep might think a bit different, see the game a bit different to a few posters on bluemoon? To Paul Merson?

As for insults? You'll have to highlight where I've insulted you!
Everyone one of your posts highlights just how determined you are to be right and unwilling you are to listen to any counter opinion.
You've shown nothing constructive or worthy or discussion, you've simply insulted the lad and shown no desire or hope of improvement in him.

Claudio's record would suggest he's easily good enough and his performance to date certainly don't represent his very best form, nor do they suggest he should be victim of so little support.

I'm personally going to support and give time to a keeper who's widely considered amongst the very best in the World outside of this tiny xenophobic backwater that is England and the decision of the very best manager in the World.
i am aware that pep will not change Claudio this season I hope he improves a little. I heard alex Williams say on blue Tuesday that he needs some coaching from someone with premier league experience. if he does not improve then eventually, next season maybe somebody else the new goalie, will have to be given a chance.
 
How have you been on here since 2nd August 2010 and only posted 168 times?
Every time I pop on here the thread is full of your posts.
bin busy. usually just observe and read but as you can see no player has ever annoyed me the way Claudio does. I hope he improves and makes us all eat our words. cant see it happening tho.
 
Sorry, I think you're talking nonsense and you're going to very disappointed if you think Pep will get rid.
He's doing exactly what Pep wants and exactly the job he was bought to do.
If that escapes you, or doesn't sit well with you, then all I can say is chin up..

Have you ever thought Pep might think a bit different, see the game a bit different to a few posters on bluemoon? To Paul Merson?

As for insults? You'll have to highlight where I've insulted you!
Everyone one of your posts highlights just how determined you are to be right and unwilling you are to listen to any counter opinion.
You've shown nothing constructive or worthy or discussion, you've simply insulted the lad and shown no desire or hope of improvement in him.

Claudio's record would suggest he's easily good enough and his performance to date certainly don't represent his very best form, nor do they suggest he should be victim of so little support.

I'm personally going to support and give time to a keeper who's widely considered amongst the very best in the World outside of this tiny xenophobic backwater that is England and the decision of the very best manager in the World.

You made a lot of decent points until xenophobia came into it. We are talking about how a player is playing this season and he has not had a good season. Neither has delph. What the phlegm has nationality have to do with it. If you want to throw race into it go on the eu referendum thread.
 
He hasn't made a save since the first week of Jan.
When Stones makes errors Pep is quick to drop or " rotate" Him out of the side, even Aguero has been on the bench, yet Bravo is seemingly beyond reproach.
Bravo needs to acclimatise, let him do it behind closed doors until he can fill Joes boots, Hart may have had the odd shonky game, but he dug us out of many games with some great saves at the top level in CL games, that's even before I mention Willy's heroics in the final last year.
I'm all for supporting players, but being able to pass a ball is only a small part of the modern keepers game, he is required to actually make some saves and "keep goal" not just "sweep goal" or pick it out if the back of the net.
Bravo has been woeful, I don't need stats to back up what my eyes have seen, and opposition teams will gladly target him, knowing that a shot on goal has a very good chance of going in.
Sorry.... not good enough.
post of the thread.
 
So you can't see the shout, then he shouted too late? Which is it? No shout or late shout?
On the TV coverage it was visable.

Are you saying no blame falls on Stines there?

I imagine some on here would have differing opinions if Kolarov obstructed Hart in such a manor.

You could hear a shout about half a second before he clattered into him. You can't physically see a shout. You can see a person shout however.

And no one mentioned Hart or Kolarov.
 
He hasn't made a save since the first week of Jan.
When Stones makes errors Pep is quick to drop or " rotate" Him out of the side, even Aguero has been on the bench, yet Bravo is seemingly beyond reproach.
Bravo needs to acclimatise, let him do it behind closed doors until he can fill Joes boots, Hart may have had the odd shonky game, but he dug us out of many games with some great saves at the top level in CL games, that's even before I mention Willy's heroics in the final last year.
I'm all for supporting players, but being able to pass a ball is only a small part of the modern keepers game, he is required to actually make some saves and "keep goal" not just "sweep goal" or pick it out if the back of the net.
Bravo has been woeful, I don't need stats to back up what my eyes have seen, and opposition teams will gladly target him, knowing that a shot on goal has a very good chance of going in.
Sorry.... not good enough.
Hart didn't have the "odd bad game" there was a time he was so terrible, Pelegrini (who almost never benches a star) had to bench him. I reckon he has a similar spell under Mancini and was benched.

That said, I agree with your point that Bravo hasn't been outstanding, but he hasn't been at fault of late either.

I'd say if he makes an error in future prior to showing outstanding performances Pep should bench him.

But until then, there may not be a value to doing so.
 
i am aware that pep will not change Claudio this season I hope he improves a little. I heard alex Williams say on blue Tuesday that he needs some coaching from someone with premier league experience. if he does not improve then eventually, next season maybe somebody else the new goalie, will have to be given a chance.

"I hope he improves a little"

Thanks for confirming my point!!
 
You could hear a shout about half a second before he clattered into him. You can't physically see a shout. You can see a person shout however.

And no one mentioned Hart or Kolarov.

Over your head...

You can't visably see a shout on TV? Perhaps Bravo was just yawning.

.5 of a second? To put that in perspective of time, there's men on this planet that can run a 100 metres in less than 20 of those.
So to ask a professional athlete not to jump in one 19th of the time it takes a man to run 100m sounds fair to me!

But then again I'm not determined to prove I'm right and Bravo is shit!!
 
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You made a lot of decent points until xenophobia came into it. We are talking about how a player is playing this season and he has not had a good season. Neither has delph. What the phlegm has nationality have to do with it. If you want to throw race into it go on the eu referendum thread.


Xenophobia is with regards to the British media hoping that everything they don't understand fails...

Xenophobia doesn't always mean race. Bravo is different to what many want or expect.
Much of the media and sadly some of our fans are determined to be proved right in the notion that fancy football and sweeper keepers and Pep has no place in our game.
A fear of something new, a fear of something different is xenophobia.

See Pep, see Bravo.
 
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"I hope he improves a little"

Thanks for confirming my point!!
i don't think he can improve a lot but I do hope he improves a little because even if he lets in four goals every game he is untouchable and will be our keeper come what may and it will be agueros fault for not scoring 5 every game
 
i don't think he can improve a lot but I do hope he improves a little because even if he lets in four goals every game he is untouchable and will be our keeper come what may

No wonder your post history is getting called into question.
Most City fans who thought a player was struggling or underperforming would hope he improved a lot.
As I say, point proven really.
You'd prefer Bravo to be shit than you proved wrong.
Very sad really.
 
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