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lets just build a basketball stadium that can be used for handball and an ice hockey stadium along pottery lane as was hinted at a couple years ago and take over the giants and storm then remame them keeping their names as nicknames for them. Job done.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Yep, but that's not the point. I've said a few times I like the rose on the badge and have no issue with it.

The issue we've been discussing is people saying that Manchester is still essentially in Lancashire. It isn't, for all the reasons I've explaned.

Where you feel it belongs is a rather different issue from where it actually belongs.
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Nah - history is massively important.

Look at the references to Ireland that some N.Irish sports teams have on their badges despite technically being in the UK. Is that wrong?

Plus LCCC still play in Manchester, no uproar about moving grounds. Liverpool and Manchester for 95% of their histories have been cities in Lancashire.

'Greater Manchester' is made up bollocks that means nothing to most people IMO.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
Nah - history is massively important.

Look at the references to Ireland that some N.Irish sports teams have on their badges despite technically being in the UK. Is that wrong?

Plus LCCC still play in Manchester, no uproar about moving grounds. Liverpool and Manchester for 95% of their histories have been cities in Lancashire.

'Greater Manchester' is made up bollocks that means nothing to most people IMO.
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Nah - you've clearly not read my posts.

I'm fine with the rose being on the badge, I actually quite like it.

I agree that history is extremely important, that's why I like the elements contained in the badge.

My post about Lancashire was not related to the rose being on the badge. A few posters were saying Manchester is essentially still in Lancashire in all but name. I completely disagree with that, for all of the reasons I listed.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Nah - you've clearly not read my posts.

I'm fine with the rose being on the badge, I actually quite like it.

I agree that history is extremely important, that's why I like the elements contained in the badge.

My post about Lancashire was not related to the rose being on the badge. A few posters were saying Manchester is essentially still in Lancashire in all but name. I completely disagree with that, for all of the reasons I listed.
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No, I read your posts and I disagree with you. I think that Greater Manchester is a pretty much a meaningless construct, and just because it exists on maps post-1974 doesn't mean it exists in the hearts and minds of people who live in the towns and cities affected.

To most people Wigan, Oldham, Bury, Bolton and Manchester are in Lancashire, and Stockport is in Cheshire.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
No, I read your posts and I disagree with you. I think that Greater Manchester is a pretty much a meaningless construct, and just because it exists on maps post-1974 doesn't mean it exists in the hearts and minds of people who live in the towns and cities affected.

To most people Wigan, Oldham, Bury, Bolton and Manchester are in Lancashire, and Stockport is in Cheshire.
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Hearts and minds, possibly. But that wasn't my point. My point was about local governance.
 
GM ended in 1986, after that Police, Fire Service and Media etc still used it though, and course GM Waste which did not include Bolton. AGMA was voluntary and it is only recently with devolution that GM has any political meaning again.

It is still 10 separate MBCs and the metropolitan county of GM died 30 years ago. Rivers are natural boundaries so Merseyside and Humberside etc were big farces, followed by GM taking in 4 real counties in an arbitrary way, even though most of it is south Lancashire.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Isn't Fives the game that's similar to squash but with no bat? Al Pacino plays it in one of his films, maybe Frankie and Johnny?

I think the Handball the other poster is talking about is the one they play in Germany and other European countries where it's basically 5 a side water polo on dry land? Schmicheal used to play it and credits it for improving him as a goal keeper.
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That's what we used to play over here and called it handball.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
Nah - history is massively important.

Look at the references to Ireland that some N.Irish sports teams have on their badges despite technically being in the UK. Is that wrong?

Plus LCCC still play in Manchester, no uproar about moving grounds. Liverpool and Manchester for 95% of their histories have been cities in Lancashire.

'Greater Manchester' is made up bollocks that means nothing to most people IMO.
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LCCC have never played in the City of Manchester.

Greater Manchester made up bollocks? Interesting: perhaps our many fans south of the Mersey feel part of "Manchester" and that's why they follow City? We have huge support in places like Tameside, Stockport and yes, Trafford. I'm not even sure that the parts of the City of Manchester that lie south of the Mersey were ever really in Lancashire.

The red rose implies we are more a club representing Accrington than Altrincham, Carnforth than Cheadle or Southport than Stalybridge. It makes no sense.
 
let's be honest, you can't ever link fan location to club location - but better live in a GM Borough than London (looking directly at you red-shite-fans)

I've never lived north of the river but I've been a City fan all my life so the red rose doesn't offend me - City has always been in the City of Manchester which historically always been in Lancashire.
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
LCCC have never played in the City of Manchester.

Greater Manchester made up bollocks? Interesting: perhaps our many fans south of the Mersey feel part of "Manchester" and that's why they follow City? We have huge support in places like Tameside, Stockport and yes, Trafford. I'm not even sure that the parts of the City of Manchester that lie south of the Mersey were ever really in Lancashire.

The red rose implies we are more a club representing Accrington than Altrincham, Carnforth than Cheadle or Southport than Stalybridge. It makes no sense.
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No it doesn't mean that. It means we are Manchester City and were founded in Lancashire.

Going by your logic people in Penrith are represented more by Scotland than England with Wembley being where it is.
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
LCCC have never played in the City of Manchester.

Greater Manchester made up bollocks? Interesting: perhaps our many fans south of the Mersey feel part of "Manchester" and that's why they follow City? We have huge support in places like Tameside, Stockport and yes, Trafford. I'm not even sure that the parts of the City of Manchester that lie south of the Mersey were ever really in Lancashire.

The red rose implies we are more a club representing Accrington than Altrincham, Carnforth than Cheadle or Southport than Stalybridge. It makes no sense.
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But there are two red roses on the City of Manchester coat of arms.
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SWP's back said:
No it doesn't mean that. It means we are Manchester City and were founded in Lancashire.

Going by your logic people in Penrith are represented more by Scotland than England with Wembley being where it is.
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No by my logic the people of Penrith, being in England. are represented at Wembley. In the same way Accrington and Carnforth (currently) or Southport (historically) are represented by the red rose.

No argument we were founded in Lancashire. The Lancashire of that day no longer exists though. A new Lancashire which Manchester lies outside of currently exists.
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
No by my logic the people of Penrith, being in England. are represented at Wembley. In the same way Accrington and Carnforth (currently) or Southport (historically) are represented by the red rose.

No argument we were founded in Lancashire. The Lancashire of that day no longer exists though. A new Lancashire which Manchester lies outside of currently exists.
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Then we should get rid of the boat as well then as sailing ships don't matter any more to Manchester
 
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