Club Badge (merged)

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GeekinGav said:
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I still think your earlier badge along these lines was your best Gav. I'm not keen on the roses. More generally, the COA shield is much more enduringly representative of our city.

Have you implied a question here about leaving the spaces between the shield and the inner ring as 'transparent' on purpose? Personally i'd be interested in seeing how that works...
 
Shaelumstash said:
No disrespect Gav, but this is exactly the kind of design I desperately hope we don't end up with.

Squeezing as many "symbols" from the questionaire on to the badge as possible.

Trying to be all things to all men.

Design by committee.

Your original design with the ship and 3 river shield is perfect.

Even those who voted for the rose or the cross or the 1894 or whatever, must surely recognise that a more simplified design works so much better, even if their favourite symbol isn't included.
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agreed. The sign of a good artist is knowing when to stop. That crams far too much in. don't stop literally though Gav, your other designs have been absolute brilliant. The two rounded with the three rivers/rose are excellent. I would take either.
 
Gary James said:
It's a long story but as the 1894-95 season approached newspapers talked of new signings and included comments like "...signed for City from the old Ardwick club" or "has joined City from Ardwick" etc. Not all the Ardwick players joined City; not all the directors became City directors and so on. Worth remembering that the cross pattee (it's not a Maltese cross - for anyone wondering about the meaning of crosses and so on it would be worth doing internet searches on terms like Cross pattee to see how it's been used/misused over the centuries and what significance these crosses can have) worn by 'the club' was worn in 1884 when the team had reformed as Gorton AFC. St. Mark's was the initial club but it evolved, reformed and was reconstituted several times along the way. The full story is in Amazon product ASIN B00M74AHNW and those early chapters can be read by using the 'look inside' feature if anyone wants to learn more (but not buy my book).
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Ok Gary. Had a good read. I'm trying to get the elements in number order of importance.
1. Manchester City & FC or Football Club/either or not fussed.
2. Ship
3. 3 Rivers
4. Founding date.
5.Rose/Cross Pattee. Equal.

This date seems very important. I always thought of it as 1894 but from reading your book intro it seems 1880 was the first recorded game. Not really interested in that a cricket team may have been an earlier part of St.Marks (in respect of the first games date, I do respect anything that had to do with City being formed)
If the cross pattee was used this would refer to the earliest team but I prefer the idea of the date on the badge. It tells people when City started. What date do you refer to as City's founding date? Do City use the date Mr Parlby registered the team in 1894?
 
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Silva_Spell said:
prefer this colour scheme

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Think the white border will stand out on the shirt better too
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Having been an avid follower of this thread and having been to Gary James' talk on Wednesday, I have to say that this is my preferred choice.

It has the club name, in full
It is a circle
It has the right shape of shield
It has the ship and three stripes
It's simple, not too busy
The white background to the writing will make the club name stand out on the kit
Maroon and gold will stand out on the shirt

It doesn't have a cross - as a complete atheist I don't want any religious connotations
It doesn't have the rose - the red rose is actually the "Red Rose of Lancaster" (yes that's LANCASTER, a town that is over 55miles away!), it isn't called the "Lancashire rose" and it never has been called that
It doesn't have the eagle - it's been used as a sole emblem by United and I don't think it looks good
It doesn't have the daft Latin on there

For me, this is perfection!
 
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Sure it's been covered, but does the badge really need to have the name of the club encircling it? As the brand (shoot me for using that word) continues to grows, it's surely the insignia that will become synonymous with the club and recognised instantly.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Having been an avid follower of this thread and having been to Gary James' talk on Wednesday, I have to say that this is my preferred choice.

It has the club name, in full
It is a circle
It has the right shape of shield
It has the ship and three stripes
It's simple, not too busy
The white background to the writing will make the club name stand out on the kit
Maroon and gold will stand out on the shirt

It doesn't have a cross - as a complete atheist I don't want any religious connotations
It doesn't have the rose - the red rose is actually the "Red Rose of Lancaster" (yes that's LANCASTER, a town that is over 55miles away!), it isn't called the "Lancashire rose" and it never has been called that
It doesn't have the eagle - it's been used as a sole emblem by United and I don't think it looks good
It doesn't have the daft Latin on there

For me, this is perfection!
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Great post, agree with every word.

The only slight drawback with it is when it's not on the shirt it's got very little sky blue in it so it's not instantly recognisable as City.

I'd also be happy with the shield being sky blue with white stripes, this will allow some continuity with the current badge and make it easier to recognise as City, especially for newer fans who grew up with the existing badge.

The other option, and the one I think we'll end up with, is for the circle to be sky blue. This is in keeping with NYCFC and Melbourne City badges. All 3 of them having sky blue circles makes sense from a City Football Group branding point of view. Not that I'm personally very arsed about that, but it's definitely the direction we're heading in.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Great post, agree with every word.

The only slight drawback with it is when it's not on the shirt it's got very little sky blue in it so it's not instantly recognisable as City.

I'd also be happy with the shield being sky blue with white stripes, this will allow some continuity with the current badge and make it easier to recognise as City, especially for newer fans who grew up with the existing badge.

The other option, and the one I think we'll end up with, is for the circle to be sky blue. This is in keeping with NYCFC and Melbourne City badges. All 3 of them having sky blue circles makes sense from a City Football Group branding point of view. Not that I'm personally very arsed about that, but it's definitely the direction we're heading in.
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Yes that's a good point too. Maybe sky and white instead of maroon and gold
 
Silva_Spell said:
prefer this colour scheme

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Think the white border will stand out on the shirt better too
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Yes it will. But the only sky blue on that is now, the sky. Which is pushing it if we're representing Manchester!

The maroon has to go IMO, to be replaced with sky blue. Job's a good un.

Lettering can be black or navy. I'd go for navy but that's neither here nor there really.

Wish I could do bleeding photoshop!
 
1.618034 said:
Yes it will. But the only sky blue on that is now, the sky. Which is pushing it if we're representing Manchester!

The maroon has to go IMO, to be replaced with sky blue. Job's a good un.

Lettering can be black or navy. I'd go for navy but that's neither here nor there really.

Wish I could do bleeding photoshop!
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There's a really strong consensus for this core design. I really hope the club are taking note.

The last thing we want is a mish mash busy badge with a load of the 'symbols' from the questionnaire squeezed in to try and appease people.

Keep in clean, keep it simple. This core design isn't going to piss anyone off. On top of that, it's by far the most popular design on here.

I think the colours are open to debate, everyone has their preference. But if the core design is the same as this, the club will have absolutely cracked it.
 
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