Club Statement (Mancini sacked) (Cont)

[kaz7]

I have to say I'm amazed at the number of people making some pretty outlandish and ridiculous assertions. The next manager will be no more of a "yes" man to Txiki and Ferran than Mancini was to Cook and Marwood. The "holistic approach" of which the club have spoken will be simply about having a manager who understands what AD are trying to do with the entire club and how all aspects of the infrastructure will need to work together.

It's not because Mancini isn't a warm and cuddly fuzzy bear who hugs his players twice a week that he got the sack. It's because he's an ignorant, arrogant, poor man manager, who looks down his nose at everyone from the tea lady to the kit men to the players to the executives.

Really is time some of you read the writing on the wall. Roberto Mancini effectively got himself sacked by not heeding last summer's warnings about his relationships with the other people at the club. The criticism of Txiki, Khaldoun, and Ferran on the forum has been an utter disgrace when all three are trying to do what's best for MCFC whilst by all accounts Roberto Mancini was trying to do what's best for Roberto Mancini.

so he did nothing for us at all?come on now

I didn't say that so there's no need to put words in my mouth. I said that he was sacked for being rude, arrogant, and impossible to work with or deal with. Those aren't the traits you want in a manager of a winning football club. Mancini was warned about all this last summer and asked to tone it down and try and communicate better with his players and the others at the club. He went down the opposite route and simply became even more difficult. In the end it fucked the season.

read your last paragraph,he was doing what was best for him

 

[Anonymous]

Well,well,well !!! How nice and refreshing to hear from Dave ?? Sky Reporter who has been living outside the teams hotel in London,ref Bobbys bashing of Vicky K.
He stated that eveyone knew that it wasn`t her doing of keeping schtum,but that of the main people in Abu Dhabi.
Will anyone have the balls to admit that VK wasn`t the correct scapegoat,but obviously our Owner and/or Khaldoon ? Of course you wont !! It wouldn`t be football to condone those two would it !!

I'd absolutely condemn the way everyone in the club involved in this has handled it. That includes the owner, the chairman, CEO, DoF, Director of Comms and the manager - none of whom come out of this particularly covered in glory.

Why? How do you sack a guy who everyone hates, who no one wants to deal with, and who basically refuses to acknowledge the authority of those he works with? Their intention was to keep it under wraps. It leaked in Spain. They dealt with it.

Again, some fucking revisionist nonsense going on. Last Friday afternoon this forum was awash with people commending City for keeping schtum, for not feeding the rumour mill, and also for making sure that in the run up to the FA Cup nobody was writing about Mancini and his future in the British press.

Four days later he's been sacked. Whatever the rights and wrongs of sacking him, in hindsight I'm not sure what else the club could've done. Mancini's been challenging them to sack him in the press for nigh on six months now. He had every opportunity to ask Khaldoun on Friday night "am I in danger of getting sacked?". Yet he played the victim in his press conference like his life depended on it when he knew what was coming.

Mancini's played a blinder here because it's only the club getting it in the neck. Everyone needs to pause and ask themselves if Khaldoun's strikes you as the kind of person who'd just sack Mancini on a whim because him and Txiki don't see eye to eye. This was a long time coming in the eyes of many at City. His popularity with the fans was irrelevant when his popularity at the club was so low.

 

[Jaques]

Revealed: Mancini's £7.5 million pay-off & Manchester City's 10-man coaching cull

EXCLUSIVE
By Wayne Veysey | Chief Correspondent

Roberto Mancini will be handed a minimum £7.5 million pay-off as Manchester City execute an extensive cull of their former manager’s backroom staff.

At least 10 members of the club’s existing coaching staff are to be axed following a comprehensive review of the coaching operations at Etihad Stadium.

The exodus is set to be headed by first-team coach David Platt and the extended Italian entourage that includes Under-21s manager Attilio Lombardo, senior coach Fausto Salsano, fitness coach Ivan Carminati, goalkeeping coach Massimo Battara and defensive coach Angelo Gregucci.

The City sacking programme, which is believed to have been led by sporting director Txiki Begiristain, has been broadened to include coaches further down the coaching chain.

Goal.com understands that long-time City servants who work with the academy players Jim Cassell and Paul Power, along with Under-18s coach Adam Sadler, were all dismissed on Monday with immediate effect. Pete Lowe, the head of education and coaching, is also facing the axe.

However, Mancini’s No 2 Brian Kidd, who will take caretaker charge of the City team for the final two matches of the season, including Tuesday’s trip to Reading, is expected to remain with the club under the regime of the new manager.

Sources have said one possibility is that the popular 63-year-old takes on a senior role working with the academy at the Etihad Stadium campus.

Begiristain is understood to have been the driving force for the coaching overhaul following a root and branch review of the club’s backroom set-up since he joined City last October.

Mancini had four years remaining on his contract but the former Inter Milan manager’s pay-off will be limited to 12 months’ salary should he get another job immediately.

Under the severance terms of the five-year contract he signed last summer, Mancini is set to receive an initial sum of £7.5m, which will be topped up for every month that he is out of work.

The 48-year-old is a target for super-rich French club Monaco, as well as Italian club Napoli.

Platt is also expected to receive a vast settlement figure if, as expected, he follows Mancini out of the exit door. The former England midfielder’s City salary is understood to be around £900,000-a-year.

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[robbieh]

What I love about this is the way that the cabal go on about Mancini's arrogance. This is exactly the trait they most exemplify. Years of condescension lavished on other posters.

Anyway it is all done and dusted now and I look forward to their continued love in with Txiki and Ferran when it all goes pear shaped.

For the record I am aware that Mancini is not the greatest manager in the world but he took over a club with a conspicuous absence of success with a hostile press on his back from word go. He won two trophies in 3 years and his departure should have been handled a lot better than it has been.

 

[BobKowalski]

Well,well,well !!! How nice and refreshing to hear from Dave ?? Sky Reporter who has been living outside the teams hotel in London,ref Bobbys bashing of Vicky K.
He stated that eveyone knew that it wasn`t her doing of keeping schtum,but that of the main people in Abu Dhabi.
Will anyone have the balls to admit that VK wasn`t the correct scapegoat,but obviously our Owner and/or Khaldoon ? Of course you wont !! It wouldn`t be football to condone those two would it !!

I must be alone in not really caring although technically a scapegoat is someone who carries the can for someone else's mistakes or actions. So I guess Vicky was the correct scapegoat after all.

Mancini's attack on Vicky was a coded attack on the owners although having read what he actually said it was less of a savage attack and more a way of making a point without actually attacking the owners. Plus he probably thinks Vicky is useless so two birds with one stone and all that.

For what its worth I think Vicky does a good job but I can't get really worked up about this either way

 

[woolleyback blue]

I think this time last year we were all Mancini “inners” after all he’d just won the title, had previously won the FA Cup and in the process torn down that pathetic rag banner and stuffed them 6-1 at the swamp. He seemed set for a long reign as City’s manager.

However, we have to take off the blinkers we may have all put on due to those successes and take a cold hard look at this season. Despite the 2nd place finish it has not been by any measure a success. The dismal showing in what was admittedly a very tough PL group, the non defence of the title and the loss in the cup final to a team on the brink of relegation make a sorry tale.

We need to take a close look at why the season went so wrong and I don’t think even the most blinkered Mancini supporter, I was one, could fail to have noted that something was wrong in the City camp. Gone was the sparkling football of last season, replaced by turgid dire displays, only occasional flashes of that football kept us in the top 4 but when it didn’t we lost to teams we were tearing apart last season.

Mancini’s management style was the source of many rumours about unrest at City and not all of them could be dismissed as media bias or invention. His public criticism of senior players didn’t go down well with a lot of fans. Had he fulfilled the expectations of the owners and the management then perhaps a case could be made for his retention but football these days is results driven and managers like Mancini know if they don’t deliver then the sack is a very real prospect.

Thank you Mr Mancini, you’ve given me some of the best moments I’ve ever had in 50+ years of supporting City and I hope wherever you go you’re successful but City have moved on and I’m looking forward to seeing where our next manager takes us.

 

[Anonymous]

What I love about this is the way that the cabal go on about Mancini's arrogance. This is exactly the trait they most exemplify. Years of condescension lavished on other posters.

Nobody gives a shit but you you obsessed little boy.

Your name = A post about the cabal, me, or Dave.

Sad.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

What I love about this is the way that the cabal go on about Mancini's arrogance. This is exactly the trait they most exemplify. Years of condescension lavished on other posters.

Anyway it is all done and dusted now and I look forward to their continued love in with Txiki and Ferran when it all goes pear shaped.

For the record I am aware that Mancini is not the greatest manager in the world but he took over a club with a conspicuous absence of success with a hostile press on his back from word go. He won two trophies in 3 years and his departure should have been handled a lot better than it has been.

You really need to leave the attacks on the so-called "Cabal" out of this mate. Especially as you're one of those who've been ridiculing and abusing us for years. Tell it to Txiki and Khaldoon because they agreed with us all along.

I can understand this is a painful time for you and you need to scapegoat.

 

[Oystercatcher28]

Even Keegan got 4 years!!!!

Thank you Roberto, best of luck in the future and you're always welcome at Manchester City and away games.

The King is dead, long live the King.

 

[kaz7]

I think this time last year we were all Mancini “inners” after all he’d just won the title, had previously won the FA Cup and in the process torn down that pathetic rag banner and stuffed them 6-1 at the swamp. He seemed set for a long reign as City’s manager.

However, we have to take off the blinkers we may have all put on due to those successes and take a cold hard look at this season. Despite the 2nd place finish it has not been by any measure a success. The dismal showing in what was admittedly a very tough PL group, the non defence of the title and the loss in the cup final to a team on the brink of relegation make a sorry tale.

We need to take a close look at why the season went so wrong and I don’t think even the most blinkered Mancini supporter, I was one, could fail to have noted that something was wrong in the City camp. Gone was the sparkling football of last season, replaced by turgid dire displays, only occasional flashes of that football kept us in the top 4 but when it didn’t we lost to teams we were tearing apart last season.

Mancini’s management style was the source of many rumours about unrest at City and not all of them could be dismissed as media bias or invention. His public criticism of senior players didn’t go down well with a lot of fans. Had he fulfilled the expectations of the owners and the management then perhaps a case could be made for his retention but football these days is results driven and managers like Mancini know if they don’t deliver then the sack is a very real prospect.

Thank you Mr Mancini, you’ve given me some of the best moments I’ve ever had in 50+ years of supporting City and I hope wherever you go you’re successful but City have moved on and I’m looking forward to seeing where our next manager takes us.

fair and balanced assessment of what happened that i agree with,no need to rip him to shreds or gloat