Cole Palmer

gordondaviesmoustache said:
Was thinking about this earlier.

For many years after the takeover the club was criticised for not giving its youth players a chance. And there was some justification in this, but the reality was there weren’t any outstanding youngsters being produced for quite some time.

This view still persisted until into Pep’s tenure. But anyone with a pair of eyes could see that was going to profoundly change, with the impact the Academy was going to have.

And now it produces so much talent. Some of it world class. Some of it merely top class. And there’s so much more to come down the line.

When you produce that much talent you are going to let some good ones go from time to time. It’s simply unrealistic to expect all of them to fulfill their talent at City. It’s just not feasible.

Pleased to see him doing so well. He’s certainly exceeded my expectations. Fair play to him.
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Don't you be giving balanced assessments like that on here, man! Don't you know where you are?
 
Blue and true said:
That's a fair point. But Palmer is the only one in recent memory we will lament letting go; I can't think of a single other academy product where we collectively thought "shit, what a fuck up". Can you?
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No, but that further supports my point that’s it’s an outlier, not the general MO.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Was thinking about this earlier.

For many years after the takeover the club was criticised for not giving its youth players a chance. And there was some justification in this, but the reality was there weren’t any outstanding youngsters being produced for quite some time.

This view still persisted until into Pep’s tenure. But anyone with a pair of eyes could see that was going to profoundly change, with the impact the Academy was going to have.

And now it produces so much talent. Some of it world class. Some of it merely top class. And there’s so much more to come down the line.

When you produce that much talent you are going to let some good ones go from time to time. It’s simply unrealistic to expect all of them to fulfill their talent at City. It’s just not feasible.

Pleased to see him doing so well. He’s certainly exceeded my expectations. Fair play to him.
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He has exceeded expectations in a Chelsea set-up, where he is given the freedom to not defend, not worry about losing the ball, and taking penalties…with his biggest one, and the one that elevated him to “Cold” Palmer, being the one against us.

At City, he was a very young, inexperienced and inconsistent prospect who Pep didn’t trust not to expose the defence by giving the ball away in midfield.

Pep tried to help elevate him from a big fish in the EDS pond to a First Team fish in the World Champions squad, where he had to compete against world class players, and he didn’t make that transition as well as he might…while showing flashes of audacity and brilliance. Sadly, in this team, that was simply not enough given the competition in his preferred position(s), and another team offered us (what most people believed at the time to be) stupid money that was ALL “pure profit” for the purposes of the football “business.”

He has done well in a very young and inconsistent (where have I read that before?) Chelsea team, but I’d prefer to see who he turns into over the next 3 seasons before I cast any serious judgment on him.

If we look like we have a hole on the right wing or ARM position in 3 years, then it might be considered bad business, but so far, in THIS team, Savinho has been a cheaper UPGRADE to the Palmer we saw.

Time will tell, but our transfer business could hardly be called anything except exceptional over the last decade.
 
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Xhavenjoe said:
No, the opposite in fact.
He wanted to go on loan.
For some reason, the choice given to him was to stay or be sold.
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Agreed he wanted a loan move! He didn't want to leave - said from the off - he is a rare player - balance guile and touch = worth a hell of a lot of money. Love Lewis but he's a classic gritty attitude, huff and puff 9Ian Brightwell type) not the rolls royce that Palmer WILL become...ahhh well
 
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