Cole Palmer

ChicagoBlue said:
He has exceeded expectations in a Chelsea set-up, where he is given the freedom to not defend, not worry about losing the ball, and taking penalties…with his biggest one, and the one that elevated him to “Cold” Palmer, being the one against us.

At City, he was a very young, inexperienced prospect who Pep didn’t trust not to expose the defence by giving the ball away in midfield.

Pep tried to help elevate him from a big fish in the EDS pond to a First Team fish in the World Champions squad, where he had to compete against world class players, and he didn’t make that transition as well as he might…while showing flashes of audacity and brilliance. Sadly, in this team, that was simply not enough given the competition in his preferred position(s), and another team offered us (what most people believed at the time to be) stupid money that was ALL “pure profit” for the purposes of the football “business.”

He has done well in a very young and inconsistent (where have I read that before?) Chelsea team, but I’d prefer to see who he turns into over the next 3 seasons before I cast any serious judgment on him.

If we look like we have a hole on the right wing or ARM position in 3 years, then it might be considered bad business, but so far, in THIS team, Savinho has been a cheaper UPGRADE to the Palmer we saw.

Time will tell, but our transfer business could hardly be called anything except exceptional over the last decade.
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Perfect. Nothing needs to be added.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
He has exceeded expectations in a Chelsea set-up, where he is given the freedom to not defend, not worry about losing the ball, and taking penalties…with his biggest one, and the one that elevated him to “Cold” Palmer, being the one against us.

At City, he was a very young, inexperienced prospect who Pep didn’t trust not to expose the defence by giving the ball away in midfield.

Pep tried to help elevate him from a big fish in the EDS pond to a First Team fish in the World Champions squad, where he had to compete against world class players, and he didn’t make that transition as well as he might…while showing flashes of audacity and brilliance. Sadly, in this team, that was simply not enough given the competition in his preferred position(s), and another team offered us (what most people believed at the time to be) stupid money that was ALL “pure profit” for the purposes of the football “business.”

He has done well in a very young and inconsistent (where have I read that before?) Chelsea team, but I’d prefer to see who he turns into over the next 3 seasons before I cast any serious judgment on him.

If we look like we have a hole on the right wing or ARM position in 3 years, then it might be considered bad business, but so far, in THIS team, Savinho has been a cheaper UPGRADE to the Palmer we saw.

Time will tell, but our transfer business could hardly be called anything except exceptional over the last decade.
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Far, far too sensible a post for this thread.
 
Ahmad said:
Phil is a little selfish imo.. sometimes it's a good thing but not always.

I think he prefers a goal over an assist. If you ask Kev he would say the opposite. That's the kind of player Haaland needs next to him.
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Foden had performed a lot better during his earlier years at City than what Palmer had done in the First Team. Palmer's levels of performance is similar to what Sancho had done once since they both left.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
He has exceeded expectations in a Chelsea set-up, where he is given the freedom to not defend, not worry about losing the ball, and taking penalties…with his biggest one, and the one that elevated him to “Cold” Palmer, being the one against us.

At City, he was a very young, inexperienced prospect who Pep didn’t trust not to expose the defence by giving the ball away in midfield.

Pep tried to help elevate him from a big fish in the EDS pond to a First Team fish in the World Champions squad, where he had to compete against world class players, and he didn’t make that transition as well as he might…while showing flashes of audacity and brilliance. Sadly, in this team, that was simply not enough given the competition in his preferred position(s), and another team offered us (what most people believed at the time to be) stupid money that was ALL “pure profit” for the purposes of the football “business.”

He has done well in a very young and inconsistent (where have I read that before?) Chelsea team, but I’d prefer to see who he turns into over the next 3 seasons before I cast any serious judgment on him.

If we look like we have a hole on the right wing or ARM position in 3 years, then it might be considered bad business, but so far, in THIS team, Savinho has been a cheaper UPGRADE to the Palmer we saw.

Time will tell, but our transfer business could hardly be called anything except exceptional over the last decade.
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A lot of opinion in there but even assuming everything is fact, why sell and not loan out? Why give McAtee, for example, the loan option, but not Palmer? From a business point of view if nothing else, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

It stinks a bit of stubbernness from Guardiola. I don't think that's a problem, of course. He has a pretty good track record after all, but that doesn't mean we can't look at things critically.
 
halfcenturyup said:
A lot of opinion in there but even assuming everything is fact, why sell and not loan out? Why give McAtee, for example, the loan option, but not Palmer? From a business point of view if nothing else, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

It stinks a bit of stubbernness from Guardiola. I don't think that's a problem, of course. He has a pretty good track record after all, but that doesn't mean we can't look at things critically.
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Given that no-one REALLY knows the private conversations, and why each side felt as they did, it is a little hard to be too critical of anyone’s actions in this matter, as it appears to have suited all three parties.
 
Pretty sure that there will be many more posts on whether or not City should have let him go .

The truth about the transfer will be argued about by posters who don't know the truth behind the transfer but are happy to go will reported " facts " .

However, I think that Palmer has done really well since his transfer and showed a quality to his play that I was unaware of, which is admittedly very limited.

He has been given freedom and opportunity to display some really good ability allied to vision, and looked very comfortable and confident.

I am pleased for him, and in the future if he continues to improve, then he will deserve all the acclaim .

Whilst we will never know whether there is regret at City about his transfer, we can certainly take some pleasure knowing that he will have learned and hopefully appreciated his time at City.

And of course he will score against us again, further up the line.
 
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