Cole Palmer

[Crooked_rain]

Nope. You can not say he wasn't prepared to fight to get into the 1st team.
He sat on the bench for us 67 times pal.
Think about it,, your a great player with unique skills, you know your good enough to play premier league football...and you sit on the bench 67 times.........I don't think any one can consider Palmer to lack courage or fight.....Just look at what he has done in moving to a complete
y different setting, and hit the ground running with consistent performances....in the best league in the world. That shows courage fight determination and ...desire...to exhibit his skills week in week out
as a Professional Footballer.
Which he has done.
Well played Cole Palmer.

But he's a young player that has to earn his spot, like Phil did, like many others do at clubs they come through. It's not like he was an established player yet when he left.

The club gave him the option to stay and prove himself at the best club in the league.

He opted not to, now he's at a lesser team with lesser players. That's absolutely fine. That's the route he took and he's playing very well. Shame he didn't have the belief his skills would cut it at the very best team and could become a big player for us no matter what.

For that reason, I'm not arsed we sold him.

 

[Crooked_rain]

That's not exactly the real story.

He wanted to go on loan to gain playing time and Pep said: either you stay or you go, but under no circumstances are we going to loan you . He spoke about it on several occasions with a lot of sadness.

We shouldn't be afraid to say that Pep totally screwed up on this one.

I disagree

It's not always beneficial for some players to go out on loan with some second rate coach and teammates. That's why the club would never have wanted Phil going out on loan. The ones they have real hopes for would be much better off being in training with Pep and City rather than getting minutes at some mid table club.

It was a compliment to Palmer that loan wasn't an option. Pep wanted him there with him.

And like I said, Palmer didn't fancy his chances alongside the players we have, so he's gone to a lesser team just to play, which is fine. He's playing very well, built his profile. We were right to sell him though. If you don't wanna fight for your spot as a young player then it's better for all parties that a sale is made. We won what we won because the team has players that have pure belief they can cut it at a team like city. For whatever reason, he didn't fancy that fight for his spot even though it was there for him.

 

[OAFC_Fan]

Many are failing to see the true beauty and value of the Palmer sale.

Chelsea bought a wonderkid, whom is a childhood Man Utd fan for £40mil. And then rinsed those desperate mugs of £60mil for Mason Mount.

That's so exquisite you can taste it.

 

[ViKDB]

From the first time I saw him play in a match at the academy five years ago, I knew that one day people would be amazed by him. Even during his numerous appearances for Manchester City in garbage time, when he seemed to contribute little and faced criticism, I never doubted his potential. The boy is that good.
He made the best decision for himself. City got the money. They owe each other nothing. Now, all that remains is to appreciate his football, even though he is no longer with Manchester City.

 

[christened at st marks]

Mahrez and Gundogan were leaving, KDB has injury issues, Bernardo always wanting to leave and still City couldn't convince him of game time or a loan. It's a colossal failure whichever way we look at it.

He wanted a loan and was told stay or be sold

 

[Manchester_lalala]

I like Bobb but he’s no where near the level of Palmer. Hell, there were comments on here last season saying Doku was better than Palmer.

I’m not so sure about that. Bobb is brilliant and he will prove that once he’s match fit.

 

[domalino]

If you don't wanna fight for your spot as a young player then it's better for all parties that a sale is made.

I can't stand how often this shit gets repeated, as if the 18 year olds are making the decision in a vaccuum.

If you as a club go out and spend £100m on players in a kids position, you are sending them a very clear message, you're not in our plans.

When you as a manager don't pick a kid who's supposedly in the first team for 3-4 months at a time, you're sending them a very clear message.

Palmer stuck with City for 2 full seasons as "part of the first team", he couldn't have done more to back himself and fight for a place. Eventually City sent him enough clear messages that they didn't rate him that he felt he had to leave, he did leave, and within a year he's shown he's one of the best players in the country and clubs would snap Chelsea's hand off to pay 2x what they did.


The attempts to re-frame every single player who leaves as being some sort of coward because they didn't back themselves is 1) bollocks, 2) desperate and 3) belongs on RAWK.

 

[Crooked_rain]

I can't stand how often this shit gets repeated, as if the 18 year olds are making the decision in a vaccuum.

If you as a club go out and spend £100m on players in a kids position, you are sending them a very clear message, you're not in our plans.

When you as a manager don't pick a kid who's supposedly in the first team for 3-4 months at a time, you're sending them a very clear message.

Palmer stuck with City for 2 full seasons as "part of the first team", he couldn't have done more to back himself and fight for a place. Eventually City sent him enough clear messages that they didn't rate him that he felt he had to leave, he did leave, and within a year he's shown he's one of the best players in the country and clubs would snap Chelsea's hand off to pay 2x what they did.


The attempts to re-frame every single player who leaves as being some sort of coward because they didn't back themselves is 1) bollocks, 2) desperate and 3) belongs on RAWK.

He's coming up 23, he's not 18.


He chose to leave. I don't see why people think it was a mistake. What were we supposed to do? Guarantee him a place to satisfy? No player should be guaranteed a starting positioning, whether you're De Bruyne or an academy product. Earn your spot. We provided him with the option to do that and he chose not to stay and break into the team.

 

[eastmanc]

In the last year, no. But long term, definitely. Quality always ends up coming to the fore. Plus Palmer and Foden would compliment each other so well in attacking midfield with their different styles.

It would have been like de Bruyne and DSilva, but two local lads.

Both are better than Bellingham for me.

I think we would have all loved that.

 

[Cobra]

But he's a young player that has to earn his spot, like Phil did, like many others do at clubs they come through. It's not like he was an established player yet when he left.

Why didnt Savio have to earn his spot? He barely had a pre-season, didn't speak much English and had barely trained with the first team but still started the opening league game against Chelsea. What about Doku last season? He started 18 league games, Bobb only started 2. Personally I think Bobb is a better player than Doku but because he's an academy graduate he's got to sit on the bench for a couple of years and get most of his minutes when we're 3-0 up.