Colin Pitchfork

[N1985]

Barrel, acid, pour down the drain.

Job done.

 

[crublue1]

In some instances it is. Kleptomania?

Old and experienced bank robbers attempting heists where the likelihood of them being caught is so high, it is irrational to go ahead. But they still do?

Maybe they want the adrenaline and the thrill more than just the bag of swag?

To be fair, a bit of shoplifting wouldn't get you a long stretch, and as unsavoury as it is, it doesn't cause anyone any actual physical harm. That's not to say stealing isn't a problem, but we obviously can't lock up everyone that's done a bit of theiving.
What I would do (for what it's worth) is give huge community service sentences for lower end criminals, have them pick litter and fill potholes. Not just for a few token hours, but for a year. And guess what? We'd have the cleanest streets and the best roads in Europe, and the crime rate would drop like a stone. Most people don't want to be a criminal. They need help. But they need to learn that crime isn't what we want, it's unacceptable, but we shrug our shoulders and accept it like it's normal. It fucking isn't normal, and it shouldn't be considered as such.
I'm all for rehabilitation, but I'd give that pitchfork **** the needle myself given the chance. If it was your daughter he'd raped and murdered you would say the same.

 

[crublue1]

It has nothing to do with university education.

The parole boards carry out an assessment based on the current laws of the land and the sentence given to the prisoner.

I wonder how many university degrees the “somebody with common sense“ had to make their decision to recall him.

All it has done is expose your random dislike of education and your penchant for discipline.

Nonsense. I'd expect better from you.
Your last paragraph is comical.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Has it really? Why on earth would I dislike education? You're sidetracking the point, that is somebody like Pitchfork should never be released. If that is me expressing a penchant for discipline then yes I'm more than happy with that. As for the person, or people that decided to recall him well done! It doesn't detract from the fact the parole board made a monumental error in releasing him, as did the judge for not imposing a whole life tariff when the monster was sentenced

What has it to do with university?

Why mention it?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Nonsense. I'd expect better from you.
Your last paragraph is comical.

I ask you the same question as Paul.

Why mention university? It has nothing to do with it. What is the possible motivation to mention it in this discussion?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I clicked on this thread thinking it was about Warnock!

You're not on your own.

 

[paulchapo]

What has it to do with university?

Why mention it?

Surely my point hasn't escaped you? I mentioned it to express my utter disbelief that what I would expect are highly qualified educated people could come to such a ludicrous decision.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Surely my point hasn't escaped you? I mentioned it to express my utter disbelief that what I would expect are highly qualified educated people could come to such a ludicrous decision.

Do you know why they made their decision?

We don’t have the report to hand, so we both are guessing as to what the actual reasons were.

Parole boards adhere to the sentencing guidelines. I guess he met their criteria for him to be released on licence.

He has subsequently breached the terms of his licence and has been returned to prison.

This is how the legal system works.

 

[paulchapo]

Do you know why they made their decision?

We don’t have the report to hand, so we both are guessing as to what the actual reasons were.

Parole boards adhere to the sentencing guidelines. I guess he met their criteria for him to be released on licence.

He has subsequently breached the terms of his licence and has been returned to prison.

This is how the legal system works.

I don't care how they made their decision, nor do I care about the sentencing guidelines, or that on paper he ticked the boxes to be considered for release. After all the criteria for him to be considered for parole had been met, the most crucial question was, "Is he safe to go back into society?" That answer should have been no and it should always be no. If the parole board had access to what was reported in the link I posted on page 15, which were transcripts and tape of his police interviews, I would presume they did, it is even more concerning they sanctioned his release.

I don't care about your pompous, "That's how the legal system works" comment. If you think he's safe to be released back into society then I presume you'd be happy to have him as a neighbour, or for him to live near any female members of your family if you have any. I certainly wouldn't.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I don't care how they made their decision, nor do I care about the sentencing guidelines, or that on paper he ticked the boxes to be considered for release. After all the criteria for him to be considered for parole had been met, the most crucial question was, "Is he safe to go back into society?" That answer should have been no and it should always be no. If the parole board had access to what was reported in the link I posted on page 15, which were transcripts and tape of his police interviews, I would presume they did, it is even more concerning they sanctioned his release.

I don't care about your pompous, "That's how the legal system works" comment. If you think he's safe to be released back into society then I presume you'd be happy to have him as a neighbour, or for him to live near any female members of your family if you have any. I certainly wouldn't.

Ok, you don’t care about due process. You just want your pound of flesh.

We disagree. There’s no need to go any further.