conn having a dig again

paulchapo said:
My biggest beef with Conn is this.He has a platform writing for a national newspaper where he could right all the myths and lies written about our owner and his investment.He could write about the joy it has given to thousands of long suffering City fans,many raised on a diet of failure and watching utterly crap players in a blue shirt,lots of them stealing a living from our club by masquerading as footballers or by their lack of effort and affinity to our club.

Instead he has chosen to take all the negative aspects that are trotted out by so many green eyed journalists and other fans and by doing so he is given their views some creedance,almost justifying them.

Yesterday i stood in an almost empty Wembley as people made their way out,the game finishing in normal time meaning i had the luxury not to have to rush.I stood and reflected on the game,zipping my coat up against the now bitterly cold late afternoon chill and wind.I re-lived my feelings as our goals hit the back of the net,my utter joy and sense of relief and pride that this team and magnificent players had had some reward for some of the unbelievable football they have produced this season.Whatever happens now they won't remain potless for all their efforts.

I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Lovely post fella.

It did feel like 76 had come around again.

For years I was told by my father in times of childhood insomnia to think about Dennis' s goal

I now have 2 goals to pacify my son.

Great , great day.

Than you Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan

You continue to make our dreams come true
 
mancityvstoke said:
paulchapo said:
I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Tears in my fucking pancakes now...you twat

Haha
 
This Paul Chapo!

Our Club just gets better every year whilst the rags demise increases and I am loving it!
 
Holcombe bloo said:
This Paul Chapo!

Our Club just gets better every year whilst the rags demise increases and I am loving it!

Oh and how they are hating it!You should read some of the utter shite coming my way now we have won another trophy.''You have a long way to catch us up!''[I didn't know we were in a race with them]

''How many managers will you go through?'' I replied,''Well i hope you keep this one a long time as i might live to see you in the conference yet!''

Unlike our championship winning season now is the time to turn the screw and keep the rodents down!Smash all trophies and records and put them into the dark ages where they belong!
 
paulchapo said:
Holcombe bloo said:
This Paul Chapo!

Our Club just gets better every year whilst the rags demise increases and I am loving it!

Oh and how they are hating it!You should read some of the utter shite coming my way now we have won another trophy.''You have a long way to catch us up!''[I didn't know we were in a race with them]

''How many managers will you go through?'' I replied,''Well i hope you keep this one a long time as i might live to see you in the conference yet!''

Unlike our championship winning season now is the time to turn the screw and keep the rodents down!Smash all trophies and records and put them into the dark ages where they belong!

Pet rag at work said "yeah but we won the first trophy this season!" I corrected him of course, stating quite obviously that the Community shield is in fact not a proper trophy, more of a posh tray.
 
Holcombe bloo said:
paulchapo said:
Holcombe bloo said:
This Paul Chapo!

Our Club just gets better every year whilst the rags demise increases and I am loving it!

Oh and how they are hating it!You should read some of the utter shite coming my way now we have won another trophy.''You have a long way to catch us up!''[I didn't know we were in a race with them]

''How many managers will you go through?'' I replied,''Well i hope you keep this one a long time as i might live to see you in the conference yet!''

Unlike our championship winning season now is the time to turn the screw and keep the rodents down!Smash all trophies and records and put them into the dark ages where they belong!

Pet rag at work said "yeah but we won the first trophy this season!" I corrected him of course, stating quite obviously that the Community shield is in fact not a proper trophy, more of a posh tray.
It's only a posh tray when we win it - if they win it it's a very important and prestigious tray!
It's the only trophy they are winning this season - and it's only march and they are already out of the race to retain it!
So it's back to being a posh tray next season then.
 
toffee balls said:
paulchapo said:
My biggest beef with Conn is this.He has a platform writing for a national newspaper where he could right all the myths and lies written about our owner and his investment.He could write about the joy it has given to thousands of long suffering City fans,many raised on a diet of failure and watching utterly crap players in a blue shirt,lots of them stealing a living from our club by masquerading as footballers or by their lack of effort and affinity to our club.

Instead he has chosen to take all the negative aspects that are trotted out by so many green eyed journalists and other fans and by doing so he is given their views some creedance,almost justifying them.

Yesterday i stood in an almost empty Wembley as people made their way out,the game finishing in normal time meaning i had the luxury not to have to rush.I stood and reflected on the game,zipping my coat up against the now bitterly cold late afternoon chill and wind.I re-lived my feelings as our goals hit the back of the net,my utter joy and sense of relief and pride that this team and magnificent players had had some reward for some of the unbelievable football they have produced this season.Whatever happens now they won't remain potless for all their efforts.

I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Lovely post fella.

It did feel like 76 had come around again.

For years I was told by my father in times of childhood insomnia to think about Dennis' s goal

I now have 2 goals to pacify my son.

Great , great day.

Than you Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan

You continue to make our dreams come true


I agree with every last word, sadly the Conn's and Schindlers of this world have lost touch with the feelings of the real fans. What a grey, dull cocoon they inhabit, they criticize when someone is putting their wealth into football (whilst embracing our traditions) rather than taking out like so many now and before.
 
I have kept out of this forum as it seemed best to leave it to some of the older fans who, to be frank, have explained the situation exceptionally well. They 'get' City so many in the media don't.

A few thoughts that I'd like to add based on my research and own ideas. I may be wrong but I think these are worth remembering....

Early 60s - yes there were takeover battles. Also, shortly before Mercer arrived City's vice chairman even started talks with Utd about a potential merger because he didn't think Manchester was big enough for two clubs! Unbelievable the jokers that have been involved with City over the years.

The Niven, Cussins, Smith, Horwich & Muir takeover of 1970 was a classic example of people trying to get involved with a successful club and helping to scupper its chances of success. These men saw an opportunity to be part of City's glory shortly after 2 trophies were won in a season - the takeover put Mercer & Allison on opposite sides and ruined our chance of success. Over the following 41 years the Blues only won 1 major trophy and became regarded as a 'small' club by some (though never by fans and people who truly understood).

That takeover also led to Swales gaining power - with hardly any shares (he told me he had about 10 when he became chairman), and so those with the shares gave him the chance and were, obviously, happy with his performance otherwise they'd have removed him.

Swales only became a major shareholder in the 80s when City's financial problems (caused by who? Maybe the man who was obsessed with matching Utd and kneejerk reactions and his supporting directors?) and relegation meant shares could be traded very cheaply.

Oh, I'm going to stop there... it's too upsetting to remember how those that put Swales in to power and supported him without question (there's film evidence of this!) allowed a truly great, popular, successful club to downsize, penny pinch, be ridiculed and generally fall from power. Only the fans, some dedicated junior staff (who cared deeply about the club and occasionally challenged its secretary, chairman, directors etc.), some players, and a few others made this club a viable option when Thaksin (regardless of what we may think the club would not have moved forward without Thaksin and I know he almost killed it as well, but Swales put it in to intensive care and came close to killing it himself!) and then the Sheikh came looking.
 
Gary James said:
I have kept out of this forum as it seemed best to leave it to some of the older fans who, to be frank, have explained the situation exceptionally well. They 'get' City so many in the media don't.

A few thoughts that I'd like to add based on my research and own ideas. I may be wrong but I think these are worth remembering....

Early 60s - yes there were takeover battles. Also, shortly before Mercer arrived City's vice chairman even started talks with Utd about a potential merger because he didn't think Manchester was big enough for two clubs! Unbelievable the jokers that have been involved with City over the years.

The Niven, Cussins, Smith, Horwich & Muir takeover of 1970 was a classic example of people trying to get involved with a successful club and helping to scupper its chances of success. These men saw an opportunity to be part of City's glory shortly after 2 trophies were won in a season - the takeover put Mercer & Allison on opposite sides and ruined our chance of success. Over the following 41 years the Blues only won 1 major trophy and became regarded as a 'small' club by some (though never by fans and people who truly understood).

That takeover also led to Swales gaining power - with hardly any shares (he told me he had about 10 when he became chairman), and so those with the shares gave him the chance and were, obviously, happy with his performance otherwise they'd have removed him.

Swales only became a major shareholder in the 80s when City's financial problems (caused by who? Maybe the man who was obsessed with matching Utd and kneejerk reactions and his supporting directors?) and relegation meant shares could be traded very cheaply.

Oh, I'm going to stop there... it's too upsetting to remember how those that put Swales in to power and supported him without question (there's film evidence of this!) allowed a truly great, popular, successful club to downsize, penny pinch, be ridiculed and generally fall from power. Only the fans, some dedicated junior staff (who cared deeply about the club and occasionally challenged its secretary, chairman, directors etc.), some players, and a few others made this club a viable option when Thaksin (regardless of what we may think the club would not have moved forward without Thaksin and I know he almost killed it as well, but Swales put it in to intensive care and came close to killing it himself!) and then the Sheikh came looking.

Thanks for the detail, Gary. My memory works on more of an emotive level these days and I'm never sure of names and precise details, but more of the (sick) joke side to City in the football business world! Could you confirm (or contradict!) my memory that by the mid-90s City were unique in English football in that policy decisions were nearly impossible because most of our shares were owned by dead men!
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Thanks for the detail, Gary. My memory works on more of an emotive level these days and I'm never sure of names and precise details, but more of the (sick) joke side to City in the football business world! Could you confirm (or contradict!) my memory that by the mid-90s City were unique in English football in that policy decisions were nearly impossible because most of our shares were owned by dead men!

Stephen Boler had been a majority shareholder and did die in the 1990s, but only after the Francis Lee takeover. I'm not certain specifically when shares were sold but at the start of the Lee takeover the major shareholders (if my memory is correct) were Boler, Swales and Greenall's brewery. By end of 1998 both Swales and Boler had died and Greenall's? Not certain what happened with their shares at that time.

The takeover took place in 1993-94.
 

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