conn having a dig again

[r.soleofsalford]

We have our immediate pre match and match routine perfect now.
Have got tickets in the same block, even the same row now, for several games

I'm still playing around with the early drinking as I prefer to sit and enjoy my pint and discuss the day ahead than fight with several others at an understaffed over priced bar.
That was sorted on Sunday as we went to Wealdstone FC where we had a good few hours sat drinking and eating.

We go to the Fox and Goose in Ealing before and after the game. i walked to the bar to order my first pint of the day, Bill the barman said "is it the usual r.sole".

Some times you want to go where everone knows your name.

Cheers ;)

bottom up.





sorry wrong thread

 

[blueyorkie]

Thanks,chaps!!! I'm an old guy myself, and more than a bit of a dinosaur. I don't tweet or twitter or whatever it is so I haven't read David Conn's twitter or tweet... I'm actually overwhelmed by the response to my post and would just like to say that I'm really gratified that it struck a cord with so many fellow blues. I have read David's The Football Business[/u, The Beautiful Game? and, Richer than God as many fellow posters have. I found myself in agreement with many of the things I read in his work. Where I agreed with him most was that no City fan ever accepted this absurd "culture of failure", no City fan ever set City up as the opposite extreme to the other "Manchester" club, no City fan ever got any enjoyment out of being "bleak and blue" of winning only "cups for cock ups". We may have suffered in silence, but we suffered plenty. And we suffered most under true blue, born Manc owners. Where I part company with David is in his more general vision of the past. I remember battles to take over City in the early 60s and then again in the early 70s which saw Peter Swales enter. I cannot believe that David was in his 20s before he realised football clubs could be bought and sold as any "other" business. I cannot believe that he didn't realise that Peter Swales financed the club on debt, just as the clubs of the early 90s and now the Glaziers do. He was right to argue that in the early 90s the "businessmen" who got involved in football were all too often get-rich-quick-merchants who spent everybody else's money, then got out, making a huge personal profit. But, as Petrusha pointed out on Sunday, David over-romanticises the past, not only City's but the game's more generally. David's vision of the Bundesliga is similarly partial and flawed, apparently because the idea of club's owned by the fans and providing cheap seats and standing areas accords with his principles.

And where does Sheikh Mansour fit in to all this? It is inconsistent, to say the very least, to criticise sharks who take fortunes out of the game and then criticise the Sheikh for putting £1.5 billion in! It is strange to take no account of the changes in football between the mid-70s and the arrival of the Sheikh - the development of sponsorship, "football related" sources of income, the burgeoning revenue from TV for those who were successful and, especially and above all, the champions league. By the time the Sheikh arrived City were in the same division as United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and several others but, in reality, nowhere near being in the same league! A billion was the cost to get into this league and the Sheikh was ready to pay his (and our!) dues! The smart jibe is that is that he's a "sugar daddy" and that this "kind of thing" has no place in the"people's game". At the end of his first season in control he reduced ticket prices. Is that disgraceful? He's forked out to buy us players of breathtaking quality. Is it only United who have the right to watch top players in Manchester? He's paying up to make the ground bigger. Is it ignoble to allow more Mancs to feel the joy of watching live football without paying anything like the fans of that wonderfully traditional club from north London have to pay? And he's changing for the infinitely better the landscape of east Manchester. He may not be replacing the factories that used to thrive there, David, but these were never as rosy as they became in your partial vision of Manchester's past. And it certainly wasn't the Sheikh who ruined them.

So come on, David, the Sheikh is a shining light that has illuminated, is illuminating and will illuminate football, the PL and Manchester. Wembley on Sunday was a superb scene awash with sky blue and red and white. The passion of the fans was just as great as in 1976, the intensity of the players was at least as great, the whole country enjoyed the game and the spectacle (well, apart from one specific area!) and for City there's real hope that there'll be more wonderful finals, more cups and more than a few PL titles. And more than that they will be achieved by "effort, determination and youth policy." When City won the PL in 2012 you wondered what moral this sent to the "young boys" watching, "reach for the stars, work hard, keep going to the very end - and get a sheikh to put in £1bn." At the end of this season the new training complex opens, and, believe me, it really will hammer home the need to reach for the stars, to work hard and to keep going to the end. But, very silently, it will bear witness to the fact that, the way football has been hijacked over the last 50 years, you'll only get that chance if you have an owner who puts in £1bn instead of bleeding it out.

I like you am an old time supporter, first game 1959 and I doff my hat to you. This and your article strike a chord with me and I must admit to having forgotten some of the things you refer to. For the younger readers, its all absolutely true, sadly Conn has a myopic view and cannot see beyond it, what a joyless existence that man has. I always felt that I would never again see our boys win things and provide the thrills of Bell, Lee, Summerbee and co but this team is better and should continue to delight Blues for a long time. What's wrong with us enjoying this, we have suffered for long enough. Let the curmdgeons like Conn and Schindler wallow in their pit of misery but don't expect the rest of us to fall for their self indugence. Embrace the City of today, enjoy every wonderful moment, we don't need to wallow in Conn like bygone memories. I trust he's still driving a Ford Pop and longs for the days of Rickets, TB and Smallpox.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Spent this afternoon in the Citizens Lounge celebrating National apprenticeship Week.

The staff were great and all Mancs. As Mr Conn knows, all the staff are earning at least the Living Wage. Thank you Sheikh Mansour!!

 

[mancityvstoke]

I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Tears in my fucking pancakes now...you twat

 

[paulchapo]

I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Tears in my fucking pancakes now...you twat

Cheers mate i had a few again as i wrote it.....i blame it on the onions i had just chopped for my tea...sniff!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The difficulty for Conn is once he had severed his attachment to City, as he had admitted to doing some time ago, it's clearly difficult for him to admit he's made the wrong life choice.

Like the drummer who leaves a band just before they hit the big time, who pontificates to anyone unfortunate to spend time in his company about his artistic integrity and the lamentable commercialisation of their music, but who secretly wishes he was back-stage with the rest of them getting his dick sucked by eighteen year old groupies.

 

[samharris]

Schindler and Conn,,,,weasels and leeches.

 

[therealsvenn]

Surely its better for owners to be putting money into clubs and not taking money out like ManUre and Arsenal!

Where did all the money go in the sixties?

 

[cinnamon blue]

I was here in 1976 when we last won the league cup and it was like coming full circle.As i looked up at the grey Wembley sky i remembered my two best mates now dead, who had stood with me game after game watching failure after failure and i had to swallow a lump and wipe my eye once or twice...well it was starting to rain now!

I hope there is an afterlife and that they watched it all from somewhere up above,taking the mickey out of that sad now older bugger stood alone wiping away a tear of nostalgia down there.

So Mr Conn can pontificate all he likes,i couldn't care less.The investment in our club has given me and countless thousands of Blues some of the best days of our lives,days we never,ever thought we would see again.For the youngsters it has given them hope for the future too and as Malcome Allison once famously said,''They can go to school now with that big blue scarf wrapped tightly around their neck and wear it with pride!''.......And that Mr Conn is what it is all about.

Tears in my fucking pancakes now...you twat

Cheers mate i had a few again as i wrote it.....i blame it on the onions i had just chopped for my tea...sniff!

me too great response

 

[paulchapo]

Tears in my fucking pancakes now...you twat

Cheers mate i had a few again as i wrote it.....i blame it on the onions i had just chopped for my tea...sniff!

me too great response

Thanks football is an emotional game at times.