twinkletoes
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Matt Damon explains how things are done in Good Will Hunting.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rQNdBmPek[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rQNdBmPek[/youtube]
twinkletoes said:Drewmanc said:twinkletoes said:I agree totally with that but as you say power corrupts.
Can you debunk this for me please mate.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_14.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... ati_14.htm</a>
-- Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:34 pm --
Right, got it. I've not seen him about on here though.
Having read that link I think it relates to the fact that the founding fathers of the USA were
-John Adams: not a Freemason but known to admire it
-Ben Franklin: Freemason, readily admitted to the fact
-Alexander Hamilton: never wrote or spoke of freemasonry but was against equality/rights for all
-John Jay: Known Freemason
-Thomas Jefferson: Known Freemason
-James Madison: Known Freemason
-George Washington: Known Freemason
As that shows they were heavily influenced by the masons and obviously the ideals/rituals slipped into their decisions when forming the nation. If these men all held the belief of equality etc then I'm sure it had a good grounding.
The point of the article was the significance of certain numbers to freemasons, not really what you've mentioned is it?
Ducado said:Some good articles on this subject if people care to look although I doubt believers in the various "theories" would bother,
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-in-conspiracies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... nspiracies</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201105/belief-in-conspiracy-theories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... y-theories</a>
There is something going on, but I would suggest that it is more a psychological problem for the various believers
Although I am not saying Governments and other bodies do not lie and deceive, they have done so in the past and they will do so again, but that does not mean there are grand plots all over the place.
Drewmanc said:Ok couldn't help it and had a look at the links in numeracy and 11 is commonly known as the number of disciples left after Judas left. 13 is the number which judas joined the last supper, the knights Templar were allegedly finally suppressed on the 13th (Friday the 13th to be precise). 33 is the number of miracles performed by Jesus (supposedly!)
Maybe these were important numbers to the Masons an therefore made its way into their thinking. The rest of that link you put is coincidental bullshit like the stuff i wrote above and about the numeracy of the uk = 33 but United Kingdom = 73+73 = 146. 1+4+6= 11 means you can get to that supposed important number anyway you feel. The above post regarding the positioning of the human brain to link significant facts and ignore the random ones stands true, in my eyes anyway.
Ducado said:Ducado said:Some good articles on this subject if people care to look although I doubt believers in the various "theories" would bother,
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-in-conspiracies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... nspiracies</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201105/belief-in-conspiracy-theories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... y-theories</a>
There is something going on, but I would suggest that it is more a psychological problem for the various believers
Although I am not saying Governments and other bodies do not lie and deceive, they have done so in the past and they will do so again, but that does not mean there are grand plots all over the place.
It's sad to quote your own post but I really think people should be having a read at the two links
But as former Nixon aide G. Gordon Liddy once told me (and he should know!), the problem with government conspiracies is that bureaucrats are incompetent and people can’t keep their mouths shut. Complex conspiracies are difficult to pull off, and so many people want their quarter hour of fame that even the Men in Black couldn’t squelch the squealers from spilling the beans. So there’s a good chance that the more elaborate a conspiracy theory is, and the more people that would need to be involved, the less likely it is true.