Cook - They Bottled It

warpig said:
markbmcfc said:
AntonDonJuan said:
You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.

Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.

Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.

Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.

At last some sense.

I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.

i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.

Try sticking by our club, i believe Gary Cook more than the bent-as-fuck Berlusconi every day of the week
 
Matty said:
Chippy_boy said:
How very very telling. Cook: "were we looking for the opportunity to joint venture in areas that would take this club on to a different platform"

As I thought. When it came to brass tacks, what we had in mind for our "offer" of £100m was in terms of some cash, some appearance fees, some marketing royalties etc etc. Not "here's £100m cheque".

So basically we bottled it, not Milan. (Rightly or wrongly, I don't want to get drawn into that.) But had we said "Here's a hundred million pound cheque", Kaka would now be ours. I was 100% certain of that prior to yesterday and I remain so now.
You can construe that statement to mean any one of a million different things and you've gone for the one that makes City look cheap and shite. Why exactly?

Why? Because I always doubted the sincerity of an offer of £108m. And why did I do that? Because it's WAY too much money for any one player. When the previous world record fee was less than £50m and the world is entering into (or is in) the biggest recession for 80 years. £50m or £60m would have been a STAGGERING offer. £108m was completely ridiculous.

I always said if the £108m was a no-strings attached offer, then Milan would have to accept it as it is just too good to refuse.

It seems patently obvious to me now that we had other things in mind than "here's the cheque fellas". I believe it was Milan that first started talking about £100m and we probably went along with it on the basis that we could see a way that they could achieve that amount of money from the sale based on various criteria, as I mention above. This is 100% normal in the commercial world Cook comes from. (And which I work in, for what it's worth.)
 
AntonDonJuan said:
warpig said:
markbmcfc said:
AntonDonJuan said:
You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.

Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.

Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.

Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.

At last some sense.

I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.

i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.

Try sticking by our club, i believe Gary Cook more than the bent-as-fuck Berlusconi every day of the week


i agree!
 
warpig said:
markbmcfc said:
AntonDonJuan said:
You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.

Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.

Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.

Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.

At last some sense.

I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.

i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing

No i dont see it as embarrassing. Cook is trying to sell the club and do a deal without making City look the inferior club throwing money at things to get their own way. If cook is discussing humanitarian issues its only because he has been lead down that road by his agent.

I think the way City conducted themselves throughout the entire saga was exemplary, not much can be said of Milan, who like the Ronaldinho saga, just show themselves to be utter poision. I'd be embarrassed if i was a Milan fan.
 
AntonDonJuan said:
warpig said:
markbmcfc said:
AntonDonJuan said:
You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.

Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.

Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.

Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.

At last some sense.

I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.

i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.

Try sticking by our club, i believe Gary Cook more than the bent-as-fuck Berlusconi every day of the week

erm no...that is a actually a direct quote from gary cook.

the deal was only ever going to be about how much money city were going to pay. or maybe i am being naieve?
 
TonyM said:
twinkletoes said:
"As we got through to the next stage there were questions that were asked that they then couldn't answer.


Does anyone know what that means?

Not the foggiest but it sounds great. To be honest I no longer care who's at blame or what the story was. I want to just circle he wagons, support cook and Hughes to the hilt and then later review what went on, lessons learned and actions o be taken. Now's the time to stand tough.

This^
 
Cook seems not to reveal all things here I think. Sounds like Cook offered Kaka side with something similar to Ronaldinho 'Paid as you play or pay by performance' package but they disappointed.
 
"They bottled it" just tells me he's trying to save face and then the rest of his statement reads like spin and business bollocks tbh.
 
Chippy_boy said:
How very very telling. Cook: "were we looking for the opportunity to joint venture in areas that would take this club on to a different platform"
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i think he means taking the brand 'kaka' and brand 'man city' in a joint venture to new platforms.........
 
twinkletoes said:
"As we got through to the next stage there were questions that were asked that they then couldn't answer.


Does anyone know what that means?


id have thought it would be questions at AC along the lines of........sign the offical documentation agreeing to the sale of kaka.....then we will offer the player his contract
 

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