Cook - They Bottled It

[mat]

Its stupid. Why did we fly out there yesterday?

Cooks missus wanted to go shopping.....?

 

[Bluebeer]

“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi....."

A slight exaggeration there from Cooky, but I'll let him off!!

seems cook is quite an exagerrater to me ...

"we were confined in a room with no food or water"

do me a favour ffs!! hes making out he was in guantanimo bay.

he also said they were their for 6 hours?!

 

[Pam]

We wanted Kaka...Milan said he's for sale, lets discuss...we go over there with an offer...Milan say, come back next week, we'll agree the fee, then you can talk to the player...we arrive, Milan start procrastinating (and probably start asking for more money)

And how is Milan saying "so how much will you pay then?" either procrastinating or asking for more money?

WE didn't table a bloody offer did we, so how it can be positioned that THEY weren't serious is beyond me. Yes they had cold feet, but that doesn't necessarily mean there was no deal to be had. If that was the case, why would they even have met us? They could have phoned up and said "sorry he's not for sale and he's committed to the club, don't bother coming". That would have been even better for them. But they didn't do that, did they. They met us to hear our offer. And we decided not to make one.

Its plain to me that WE got colder feet than them.

Where the FUCK did you get that we didn't table an offer?????????????????????

Cooke said it.

 

[warpig]

“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi....."

A slight exaggeration there from Cooky, but I'll let him off!!

seems cook is quite an exagerrater to me ...

"we were confined in a room with no food or water"

do me a favour ffs!! hes making out he was in guantanimo bay.

he also said they were their for 6 hours?!

in a room on their own with no food or drink for 6 hours.

who or how were they negotiating? via text messages?

 

[Anonymous]

Cooke said it.

Pay really close attention to the quotes then...what he said was we never tabled an offer to the player...

Milan basically told us we could speak to the player, then changed their mind when we arrived in Milan yesterday...

 

[warpig]

Cooke said it.

Pay really close attention to the quotes then...what he said was we never tabled an offer to the player...

Milan basically told us we could speak to the player, then changed their mind when we arrived in Milan yesterday...

we couldnt get to speak to the player himself as cook wanted to talk about humanitarian issues and they wanted to talk about money, which is what the deal was all about.

they thought he was a timewaster and i agree. all this "he didnt want to be a part of our journey" is pure fantasy. what drugs is this guy on?

 

[Pam]

Cooke said it.

Pay really close attention to the quotes then...what he said was we never tabled an offer to the player...

Milan basically told us we could speak to the player, then changed their mind when we arrived in Milan yesterday...

Why? What are they meant to have lost their bottle about?

 

[Brucie Bonus]

“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi....."

A slight exaggeration there from Cooky, but I'll let him off!!

seems cook is quite an exagerrater to me ...

"we were confined in a room with no food or water"

do me a favour ffs!! hes making out he was in guantanimo bay.

No, he's indicatating they were treated disrespectfully. It's SOP to have drinks and tasty bites on hand, and the more significant the contract discussed, the greater the chance wait-service will also be on hand. Even if Cook and co. had dropped by unannounced the basics of hospitality would have been procured without delay. They weren't. This minor point is the clearest indication of Milans attitude towards City. If someone stopped by at your house mate, what do you say without delay, "fancy a brew"? Treatment of guests, regardless of culture, has always been seen as a reflection on the honour of the house, it's basic human courtesy that transcends cultures, religions, ethnicity, and social-class. Step back from this and ask yourselves how do you think our Arab benefactors will take this treatment of their servants?

Let's reverse this: assume Milan had come to City and the deal broke down there, and Milan released a statement that included the following - "The put is in a room, asked us not to leave, and no one even supplied and drinks or food". Think about what Cook is trying to communicate by "confined": that Milan actually said, "please do not leave" or, they put someone on the door, on the inside? That's ridiculous, outrageous, disrespectful! It is; as outragous, ridiculous, and disrepectful as treating a guest (any guest) in this manner; and it's dangerous behaviour when one treats the designated representatives of Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in such a contemptous way.

Just speculating about what lies behind "confined"...but I'm not speculating about common decency when it comes to treating guests am I?

 

[warpig]

yes i agree with what you are saying. maybe i am wrong? who knows. you have stated argument excellently.

 

[Alanm1980]

To me it sounds as though Cook was there to sell our vision and discuss how we as Man City and Kaka go forward together to boost our image and all Kaka's reps were interested in was the money and couldn't care less about our Vision and 10 year plan etc.

 

[Brucie Bonus]

To me it sounds as though Cook was there to sell our vision and discuss how we as Man City and Kaka go forward together to boost our image and all Kaka's reps were interested in was the money and couldn't care less about our Vision and 10 year plan etc.

That's the way it sounds to me: If true we've just been afforded a peek behind the Kaka-machines curtain. Cook was concerned with "humanitarian issues" as well, and he claims that was brushed aside (I picture with barely-stifled yawns and cynical eyeball-rolling). I'm all for getting to the point, the bottom-line, but I can't blame Cook for thinking in Kaka's case the bottom-line was more than zeros in a bank account.

He's got a stupid name anyway, Kaka, I mean, ffs! LOL.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It is; as outragous, ridiculous, and disrepectful as treating a guest (any guest) in this manner; and it's dangerous behaviour when one treats the designated representatives of Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in such a contemptous way.

Just speculating about what lies behind "confined"...but I'm not speculating about common decency when it comes to treating guests am I?

I think you perhaps haven't experienced the wide varieties of styles and hospitality (or lack thereof) you encounter when trying to negotiate deals. I have been there and worn that tee-shirt! Some people are just plain rude.

 

[warpig]

To me it sounds as though Cook was there to sell our vision and discuss how we as Man City and Kaka go forward together to boost our image and all Kaka's reps were interested in was the money and couldn't care less about our Vision and 10 year plan etc.

That's the way it sounds to me: If true we've just been afforded a peek behind the Kaka-machines curtain. Cook was concerned with "humanitarian issues" as well, and he claims that was brushed aside (I picture with barely-stifled yawns and cynical eyeball-rolling). I'm all for getting to the point, the bottom-line, but I can't blame Cook for thinking in Kaka's case the bottom-line was more than zeros in a bank account.

He's got a stupid name anyway, Kaka, I mean, ffs! LOL.

brucie for prime minister!!

 

[Rammy Blue]

“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi....."

A slight exaggeration there from Cooky, but I'll let him off!!

seems cook is quite an exagerrater to me ...

"we were confined in a room with no food or water"

do me a favour ffs!! hes making out he was in guantanimo bay.

No, he's indicatating they were treated disrespectfully. It's SOP to have drinks and tasty bites on hand, and the more significant the contract discussed, the greater the chance wait-service will also be on hand. Even if Cook and co. had dropped by unannounced the basics of hospitality would have been procured without delay. They weren't. This minor point is the clearest indication of Milans attitude towards City. If someone stopped by at your house mate, what do you say without delay, "fancy a brew"? Treatment of guests, regardless of culture, has always been seen as a reflection on the honour of the house, it's basic human courtesy that transcends cultures, religions, ethnicity, and social-class. Step back from this and ask yourselves how do you think our Arab benefactors will take this treatment of their servants?

Let's reverse this: assume Milan had come to City and the deal broke down there, and Milan released a statement that included the following - "The put is in a room, asked us not to leave, and no one even supplied and drinks or food". Think about what Cook is trying to communicate by "confined": that Milan actually said, "please do not leave" or, they put someone on the door, on the inside? That's ridiculous, outrageous, disrespectful! It is; as outragous, ridiculous, and disrepectful as treating a guest (any guest) in this manner; and it's dangerous behaviour when one treats the designated representatives of Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in such a contemptous way.

Just speculating about what lies behind "confined"...but I'm not speculating about common decency when it comes to treating guests am I?

exactly Bruce, excellent post.

picture the scenario, 6 top ranking city officials confined to a room and treated disrespectfully with milan officials popping in and out moving the goalposts. no wonder we walked.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Seems reasonable to me. Or should we all make up bullshit stories like rags and make ourselves a laughing stock again? Wind your fucking necks in.

 

[Brucie Bonus]

It is; as outragous, ridiculous, and disrepectful as treating a guest (any guest) in this manner; and it's dangerous behaviour when one treats the designated representatives of Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan in such a contemptous way.

Just speculating about what lies behind "confined"...but I'm not speculating about common decency when it comes to treating guests am I?

I think you perhaps haven't experienced the wide varieties of styles and hospitality (or lack thereof) you encounter when trying to negotiate deals. I have been there and worn that tee-shirt! Some people are just plain rude.

I know, some folks are rude and inhospitable regardless of circumstances. If the folks at Milan treat everyone they meet like this, then it means nothing more than the folks at Milan are rude and inhospitable people. We've nothing to compare this too. I've no idea how they treat representatives from Sampdoria or Torino, or the local branch of Big Bank Inc., but I'll bet you a Waggon Wheel they at least get out the chocolate milk and kit kats ;-).

 

[BobbyLazarus]

At the present moment in time, only the most deluded of fans would think that the best players in the world (and quite a few of the average ones too) would come to us for anything other than a sackfull of money.

The concept that we can currently deal with AC Milan on an equal footing is complete la la land.

The only thing we can compete on is buckets and buckets of cash.

If (and I do say IF) anyone involved in this whole thing truly believed this was about 'selling the vision' then I'm just stunned. 'The Vision' if there is one, is that we are going to spend our way into a competetive position. At least, I hope that's the vision. The way to express that vision is to slap your money on the table.

If we have some different vision, involving using our wily business, brand and footballing nous to lift us out of mediocrity whilst operating within sensible monetary boundaries, then that is fine. It just means were the same as every other team outside the Euro money cartel. Don't expect it to work though.

 

[vbr]

"And uhuh I I think they BOTTLED IT" SSN taking clip of Cookie saying that into overdrive

 

[Selbyblue]

“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi....."

A slight exaggeration there from Cooky, but I'll let him off!!

seems cook is quite an exagerrater to me ...

"we were confined in a room with no food or water"

do me a favour ffs!! hes making out he was in guantanimo bay.

he also said they were their for 6 hours?!

Should've rung for a pizza

 

[Bluebeer]

At the present moment in time, only the most deluded of fans would think that the best players in the world (and quite a few of the average ones too) would come to us for anything other than a sackfull of money.

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we probably would have offered a sack full of money if we got to that point......sounds like they just couldnt be arsed waiting and learning how the city project is going to work....?