COP26

mancity1 said:
Think it was on an economic scale of sorts where blue was singing from.

Many in agriculture , manufacturing and transport are not on the Shatner hit list to pass the Karman line Bob.

Yes we have tax scales based on income but green subsidies hit the poorest the most.

I get tired of the next king of England , elites , media , big banks telling the majority and high paid city dwellers etc virtue signalling on climate change , boring , ineffectual and does nothing for the environment nor did the many plane and chopper trips Sir David took around the world to narrate his work.

Charley Farley telling a reporter who used a gas guzzling car to interview him in his back yard that you could install 30 SMR's or have a wind farm installed that I run my 51 year old jag on wine FFS and only eat meat two days a week FFS.

If he was really a man of conviction he would find a way to stop breathing because that would do wonders for his co2 footprint.

the queen I hear has given up the plonk so lets hope she finds the secret to eternal life albeit she has even become more than apolitical in her formative years.
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None of these are middle class families. Most city dwellers are not ‘highly paid’. London isn’t full of elites either. It’s a highly diverse city of some eight million souls, most of whom are far from elite. The poverty rate in London is higher than the UK average.

And a lot of impetus driving climate change is coming from ordinary people, young people, concerned people if you like. As for the media in the UK, it has been rubbishing climate change as ‘nonsense’ for nearly two decades. Not that the UK Govt will do much, it’s a shiny toy for Johnson to play with and any proposals will be gutted by the Treasury.
 
BobKowalski said:
None of these are middle class families. Most city dwellers are not ‘highly paid’. London isn’t full of elites either. It’s a highly diverse city of some eight million souls, most of whom are far from elite. The poverty rate in London is higher than the UK average.

And a lot of impetus driving climate change is coming from ordinary people, young people, concerned people if you like. As for the media in the UK, it has been rubbishing climate change as ‘nonsense’ for nearly two decades. Not that the UK Govt will do much, it’s a shiny toy for Johnson to play with and any proposals will be gutted by the Treasury.
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Wasn't specifically referring to London Bob more so those that will attend.

Once you talk about cost and explanation of same the mood of change swings a tad.

I agree about Boris he is no leader or reformist on climate change , change will come more from the private sector , the market and the power of the individual mores o than Government investment unless the market fails and it could given the longer term financial repercussions of the pandemic ( remember what happened ten years after the Spanish Flu and one thing we often don't learn from history is to learn from history ).

China and India are largely the key and what happens in Africa in the next 50 years.

one is Communist so they can trigger their emissions in a downward spiral with force if they see fit to and on their own people of course and India a pseudo SSDR that still need a lot of coal as China does but the real change is needed in transportation and agriculture and horticulture.

Personally I think their is little global will to enact meaningful change with too many competing interests but we might be surprised although we will never know that a warmer greener world ain't all doom and gloom.

Modelling never cuts it when it comes to the climate IMO not much different when it comes to pandemics.

Our modellers had a death toll from covid in the 100k plus with hard lockdowns last year and to date we have 1.5k in OZ but they didn't figure on 110k small businesses in Melbourne alone going to the wall and we our now have racked up a gross debt of just under a Trillion dollars and a true participation rate that has dropped by over 10 per cent and many having significantly sipped into their superannuation well before retirement age.
 
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