Corners

Armaan said:
Manchester_lalala said:
KippaxCitizen said:
Bony is only 6 foot tall. Jovetić is taller. How many headers do you ever remember him scoring for Seansea? His game is not about having crosses put into him to head in. He is a footballer.

He holds the ball up with back to goal and brings other players into the game really well, he is a really good passer of the ball, he has a great first touch and a lethal shot. His game will be to link up with Silva Nasri and Kun in and around the box and I'd imagine Navas will be on the bench when they're all fit.

Bony is brilliant in the air.
That statement was ludicrous, the majority of bonys goals for Swansea came from headers.

Wilfried has scored 6 headers from the 34 goals he has scored for Swansea. Either way, in Pellers we trust
 
yakzson_ctid.Si said:
Wilfried has scored 6 headers from the 34 goals he has scored for Swansea. Either way, in Pellers we trust

You haven't seen any of those 170 corners, have you?
 
coleridge said:
yakzson_ctid.Si said:
Wilfried has scored 6 headers from the 34 goals he has scored for Swansea. Either way, in Pellers we trust

You haven't seen any of those 170 corners, have you?

I've seen them all. Im just pointing out that the majority of his goals are not headers. Last year we scored more from corners than anyone. I'm frustrated too.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
steviemc said:
Thia was taken from an article about data analysis in football in 2013...

Manchester City’s data department analysed about 400 corners in several national leagues over seasons, and concluded that the most dangerous corner is the inswinger: the ball that swings in towards goal.

The data team took this finding to City’s manager Roberto Mancini, who had played football for many years, and his gut told him that the most dangerous corner was the outswinger. But City’s outswingers kept on not producing goals. Mancini’s assistant David Platt came to chat to the data analysts, and they noticed that City had begun taking inswinging corners. Last season City scored 15 goals from corners, the most in the English Premier League. Vincent Kompany’s headed goal against Manchester United, which effectively clinched the championship for City, came from an inswinging corner.
I don't need a data analyst to tell me an inswinger is more dangerous; it's blatantly obvious. At a corner, attacking players are facing the goal and defenders have their backs to it. If the ball swings in, the attackers are on the front foot, attacking the ball, and the defenders are either static or back-peddling, plus they're trying to watch the ball and the attacking players. So the odds must favour the attacking players, particularly if the corner taker can put the ball where it's expected.

If it swings out, the defenders are on the front foot and the attackers are static. But even that assumes you put the ball in the right place. I sit in 109 so am level with the 6-yard box and far too often you see an outswinging corner go beyond most of our players, so they're not going to get it anyway. There was a good example of this against Boro, where the ball arrived between the penalty spot and the edge of the 18-yard box and there were 5 of our players between the penalty spot and 6-yard box. That's utter rubbish.

And then yesterday was at least the second time we've been at the arse-end if a game, with seconds to go and we've pissed around with a short corner. I didn't have a problem with Navas giving it to Milner but he should have crossed right away, rather than give it back. Milner's supposed to be a bright guy but that was utterly fucking brainless.

I honestly thought that Milner was running over to take the corner but Navas took it to him. Just an an end of match cock up. Mistaken reading of run. Wrong wave-length Milner gives it him back. I groaned, pretty loudly, but I reckon it was just a misread run.
 
yakzson_ctid.Si said:
coleridge said:
yakzson_ctid.Si said:
Wilfried has scored 6 headers from the 34 goals he has scored for Swansea. Either way, in Pellers we trust

You haven't seen any of those 170 corners, have you?

I've seen them all. Im just pointing out that the majority of his goals are not headers. Last year we scored more from corners than anyone. I'm frustrated too.

The great crime is that we work hard and play well to earn all those corner, just to hoof it three feet of the ground to the first defender [who is usually the worst one]. Beyond frustration...
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
steviemc said:
Thia was taken from an article about data analysis in football in 2013...

Manchester City’s data department analysed about 400 corners in several national leagues over seasons, and concluded that the most dangerous corner is the inswinger: the ball that swings in towards goal.

The data team took this finding to City’s manager Roberto Mancini, who had played football for many years, and his gut told him that the most dangerous corner was the outswinger. But City’s outswingers kept on not producing goals. Mancini’s assistant David Platt came to chat to the data analysts, and they noticed that City had begun taking inswinging corners. Last season City scored 15 goals from corners, the most in the English Premier League. Vincent Kompany’s headed goal against Manchester United, which effectively clinched the championship for City, came from an inswinging corner.
I don't need a data analyst to tell me an inswinger is more dangerous; it's blatantly obvious. At a corner, attacking players are facing the goal and defenders have their backs to it. If the ball swings in, the attackers are on the front foot, attacking the ball, and the defenders are either static or back-peddling, plus they're trying to watch the ball and the attacking players. So the odds must favour the attacking players, particularly if the corner taker can put the ball where it's expected.

If it swings out, the defenders are on the front foot and the attackers are static. But even that assumes you put the ball in the right place. I sit in 109 so am level with the 6-yard box and far too often you see an outswinging corner go beyond most of our players, so they're not going to get it anyway. There was a good example of this against Boro, where the ball arrived between the penalty spot and the edge of the 18-yard box and there were 5 of our players between the penalty spot and 6-yard box. That's utter rubbish.

And then yesterday was at least the second time we've been at the arse-end if a game, with seconds to go and we've pissed around with a short corner. I didn't have a problem with Navas giving it to Milner but he should have crossed right away, rather than give it back. Milner's supposed to be a bright guy but that was utterly fucking brainless.

I honestly thought that Milner was running over to take the corner but Navas took it to him. Just an an end of match cock up. Mistaken reading of run. Wrong wave-length Milner gives it him back. I groaned, pretty loudly, but I reckon it was just a misread run.
It looked like our players were reluctant to take a corner. Very odd.
 
Do you think it will flash up on the big screens when we hit 200 corners like it did when we hit 100 goals last season ?
 
coleridge said:
yakzson_ctid.Si said:
coleridge said:
You haven't seen any of those 170 corners, have you?

I've seen them all. Im just pointing out that the majority of his goals are not headers. Last year we scored more from corners than anyone. I'm frustrated too.

The great crime is that we work hard and play well to earn all those corner, just to hoof it three feet of the ground to the first defender [who is usually the worst one]. Beyond frustration...

Well the good news is Wilfried has scored tonight (a header) and Algeria have just equalised so bring them home
 

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