Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

England Hospital Data last 24 hours

Some more good news.

Patients down 1142 to 27, 397 - lowest in 4 weeks.

Ventilators down 90 to 3324 - lowest in 3 weeks.

Regionally:-

Every single region has fewer patients than yesterday.

East down 325 to 3060

London 158 to 5723

Midlands 120 to 5383

NE & Yorkshire 94 to 3402

North West 163 to 3854

South East 201 to 4143

South West 81 to 1832


Ventilators mostly down too

East down 37 to 292

London down 15 to 1075

Midlands up 5 to 622

NE & Yorkshire up 2 to 319

North West down 3 to 367

South East down 15 to 455

South West up 3 to 184

Least it has taken the pressure of the hospitals slightly if nothing else. Numbers falling very slowly though.

 

[Healdplace]

I wonder if all these major nations refusing to give the Oxford vaccine to over 65s (Sweden now too) will start to erode confidence here and see people asking to wait until they can have the 'better' one.

The media reporting these stories is bound to make a few think that way. As they will not know the details and judge on how we seem almost alone in taking what they may perceive as a risk.

I will take what I am given when it is my turn as I understand the arguments as many out there will likely not but being over 65 I can see why some may feel happier if by chance it is the other one.

Frustrating that we are in this position because it might cost lives to think there even is a less good one that others are saying you should not be having as it is too risky.

Especially as the good points of the AZ Oxford one (lack of hospitalisation and lower transmissibility) are rarely stressed and yet are possibly more important.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

I wonder if all these major nations refusing to give the Oxford vaccine to over 65s (Sweden now too) will start to erode confidence here and see people asking to wait until they can have the 'better' one.

The media reporting these stories is bound to make a few think that way. As they will not know the details and judge on how we seem almost alone in taking what they may perceive as a risk.

I will take what I am given when it is my turn as I understand the arguments as many out there will likely not but being over 65 I can see why some may feel happier if by chance it is the other one.

Frustrating that we are in this position because it might cost lives to think there even is a less good one that others are saying you should not be having.

My friends mrs works as a dentist in Salford and she was given the choice of either AZ or PFZ and opted for the latter as everyone in the practice had said it was the better one and she’s only 39

 

[Gabriel]

I wonder if all these major nations refusing to give the Oxford vaccine to over 65s (Sweden now too) will start to erode confidence here and see people asking to wait until they can have the 'better' one.

The media reporting these stories is bound to make a few think that way. As they will not know the details and judge on the way that we seem almost alone in taking what they may perceive as a risk.

I will take what I am given when it is my turn as I understand the arguments as many out there will understandably not but being over 65 I can see why some may feel happier if by chance it is the other one.

Frustrating that we are in this position because it might cost lives to think there even is a less good one that others are saying you should not be having.

I think the news about the AZ/Oxford vaccine having an apparent effect on transmission might make some reconsider.

Quite sure we'd all prefer the Pfizer vaccine with a 21-day interval, but we cannot all have it this year. Maybe in the future.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Not too sure if it matters as it goes deep inside the muscle. I would imagine it to be numb regardless of the site chosen owing to trauma caused. A tablet or capsule would be less stressful all round. Maybe they could perfect the sugar lump vehicle of protection as they did with Polio and simply post the cubes out by post. Anyway she said it was only dead for a few hours, with no mither after.

I think mate, that is what is known on here as a “whoosh”....

;-)

 

[marco]

Least it has taken the pressure of the hospitals slightly if nothing else. Numbers falling very slowly though.

i think it will strat to drop quite fast give it another week, we all know these numbers are the xmas and new year infections,,i posted about a neighbour having a xmas party and a new year party a few pages back and there attitude was 'we do what we want' well they dont anymore because there both dead at that house,i ask myself was it worth it

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder if all these major nations refusing to give the Oxford vaccine to over 65s (Sweden now too) will start to erode confidence here and see people asking to wait until they can have the 'better' one.

The media reporting these stories is bound to make a few think that way. As they will not know the details and judge on how we seem almost alone in taking what they may perceive as a risk.

I will take what I am given when it is my turn as I understand the arguments as many out there will likely not but being over 65 I can see why some may feel happier if by chance it is the other one.

Frustrating that we are in this position because it might cost lives to think there even is a less good one that others are saying you should not be having as it is too risky.

I doubt it and I’m not sure Sweden and major countries goes together in the same sentence. Especially when the Swedish Government allowed its population to be part of an extremely dangerous Covid experiment. The higher portions of people who are refusing to take the vaccines are reported to be BAME and people within these ethnicities who don’t rely on the main stream media for their news.

The news will make some people planning to take the vaccine nervous but I doubt many will change their minds.

 

[Eds]

50 people all fined for attending a house party on Bristol.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but these Fuckwits don't give a shit about the lives of others and fines don't seem to be a strong enough deterrent

Fines should be £5k per person and £20k for the organiser. Not only that everyone who is fined plus their immediate family should have to wait for their vaccine until everyone else has had it. They should also be refused NHS treatment for 12 months. Harsh and maybe disproportionate but these twats need to understand the jeopardy they are putting themselves and others in. This might just help them realise that their actions are selfish etc

 

[cleavers]

i think it will strat to drop quite fast give it another week, we all know these numbers are the xmas and new year infections,,i posted about a neighbour having a xmas party and a new year party a few pages back and there attitude was 'we do what we want' well they dont anymore because there both dead at that house,i ask myself was it worth it

This example should be shown on TV on every channel as to why we should follow the rules.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Quite sure we'd all prefer the Pfizer vaccine with a 21-day interval, but we cannot all have it this year. Maybe in the future

Honestly, I don't think it really matters.

It's like two starving men debating whether fish and chips or curry is preferable.

I do worry with @Healdplace that the highly risk adverse decisions elsewhere will cause unwarranted hesitancy here.

Anyway, it removes any ethical motive to divert vaccine to Europe as they wouldn't be using it in high risk people anyway.