Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Totally agree, the 10 years is just one more example of a govt not in control and making things up without thinking through....never happen - we have women being killed every week and those responsible dont get 10 fucking years. To think you will get sent to prison for even 1 year for not filling in a form is an insult to those who died and justice system, but maybe it makes sense on fucking Planet Boris!
This is getting tiring. If people want to take potshots at politicians, use the appropriate thread in the politics sub forum. It really isn't rocket science.
 
My mate is in Torquay, Victoria, I know they were locked down for about 4 months around June onwards I think. He was more than happy to do so as it meant they could get back on the golf course in time for Spring and summer, (he's retired). The death toll I believe is very low but it was a hard line lockdown and I honestly don't think our Society here would accept it. With Torquay being on the coast and two hours out of Melbourne would they get away with some of the measures?
The government on " health advice " had regions and in truth the areas outside of Greater Melbourne in Victoria were harshly treated as numbers were very low with the vast majority of shires having no covid at all.

When daily numbers hit 700 ( all a result of hotel quarantine bungling as a result of poor public policy implementation ) the justification was that people moving from Melbourne to places like Torquay which many do during holidays and on weekends would spread the virus so a police ring was placed around greater Melbourne preventing people from travelling to any other place unless it was strictly for work purposes and even then they needed a permit signed by the employer so effectively only essential goods and services to ports and supermarkets and warehouses were allowed.

We had 800 odd deaths in a national total of 909 to date.

Its not rocket science had we kept the virus outside nursing homes the death toll would have been much much lower.

We closed all passenger travel to and from all countries for many months and you still cannot leave the country outside for work or relocation.

All arrivals of returned citizens are placed in quarantine for at least 14 days but despite this various strains continue to creep into the public however since the second major lockdown in Victoria in numbers that allow contract tracing both primary and secondary to be managed reasonably effectively.

We are far more forgiving and complicit with Government Advice and Government bungling and interference into ones privacy and civil liberties.

Mini state border and hot spot lockdowns are triggered with single digit cases in fact often just one case recently bar NSW which has a right of centre government in place ( in the main ) and manages their numbers despite doing most of the heavy lifting for returned travellers and shutting down business as soon a new case in the community occurs.
 
I've not looked at that data - my guess was that variation in care home outbreaks would mask a vaccine effect. Was it you that posted the visualisation of that data a few days ago?
was yeah, i'll do it again tomorrow, my feeling is that deaths in over 80s is creeping down in all settings, but i'm not sure yet.
 
What is more worrying is that the Government have obviously identified people are actually attempting to gain entry to the UK, deliberately misleading border controllers
If that's the case then I would agree to heavy spot fines, then quarantine (in Liverpool). If that's refused, then they are sent back at their expense.
 
If that's the case then I would agree to heavy spot fines, then quarantine (in Liverpool). If that's refused, then they are sent back at their expense.

in the real world, most people wanting to gain entry into the UK are our own citizens so ‘send them back’ is not likely to be a valid policy
 
in the real world, most people wanting to gain entry into the UK are our own citizens so ‘send them back’ is not likely to be a valid policy
I know, which makes the idea of lying where you came from even more absurd. Just need to scan the passport and all the info pops up.
 
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