They do a mass sample test in detail every week and factor up from that to the population. I assume using a statistically credible number of fully tested samples for the data to have good confidence levelsCan I ask how we know that all these positive cases are the new Delta variant? I’m assuming most people who are testing positive are doing so on the PCR kits and I didn’t think it told you what variant it was. Genuine question btw.
I hope they get better quickly.Worrying at the moment. I know of quite a few double jabbed people getting it, one of which is under 40 and ended up hospitalised by it.
I wonder how influential the Euro crowds in England have been?
All messaging around the pandemic went totally out of the window once England started doing well - even the government seemed to say fuck it and let in a full Wembley by the final?
Hopefully the end will mean the end to such large crowds, (as in the 10s of thousands all in the street) and more sensible behaviour?
I hope they get better quickly.
But please bear in mind - and this applies to a number of people who've posted similar things in this thread - that "my mrs/mate/etc has been double jabbed and still got ill" *DOES NOT MEAN* the vaccines don't work. What it means is they've be in intensive care, or even dead, without them.
Nothing personal and I genuinely really hope your pal makes a swift and full recovery.
I'm 34 and got my second jab tomorrow...
Starting to wonder what City will do in August, figures are going to rise undoubtedly, could a club perhaps City take a view that is not safe? I'm double jabbed and after a long think didn't defer.
CTID could become a reality for some unfortunately.
I'm assuming the FA/Prem League couldn't sanction us if we did cut/play behind closed doors?
Must admit I have started to feel this way myself. Not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but am feeling that there is more about this than we know or are being told as the goalposts keep moving.It's all a bit bleak at the moment.
I too can't see an endgame to all this shit at the moment. The euphoria of the original vaccines although reducing deaths aren't stopping the spread or new variants appearing which is going to carry on until we can stop the spread worldwide.
Although generally a miserable fucker I'm only normally a moaner about minor miscellaneous stuff but this now seems like that light at the end of the tunnel is getting further away again.
Maybe my post came over too negative, I was just musing while having a beer after painting all morning.Will we heck. If fans are allowed they will be there. Everyone seems to be massively negative on here at the moment.
Does anyone know if the number of weekly deaths are in like with what they would be on a normal year? The reason I ask is the deaths has gone up slightly, but that is to be expected as the number of people who have covid is going up a lot. The deaths are with covid renember and not because of it. Could it just be that as the number infected amongst the population grows, the number of deaths with it will also grow at the same ratio, but the total number of actual deaths stays the same?
Maybe my post came over too negative, I was just musing while having a beer after painting all morning.
Just out of interest, have any of those people had covid before?Worrying at the moment. I know of quite a few double jabbed people getting it, one of which is under 40 and ended up hospitalised by it.
Just out of interest, have any of those people had covid before?
The thing to remember is this.Worrying at the moment. I know of quite a few double jabbed people getting it, one of which is under 40 and ended up hospitalised by it.
Will we heck. If fans are allowed they will be there. Everyone seems to be massively negative on here at the moment.
Does anyone know if the number of weekly deaths are in like with what they would be on a normal year? The reason I ask is the deaths has gone up slightly, but that is to be expected as the number of people who have covid is going up a lot. The deaths are with covid renember and not because of it. Could it just be that as the number infected amongst the population grows, the number of deaths with it will also grow at the same ratio, but the total number of actual deaths stays the same?
It depends on your interpretation of being very ill, some people have a lower threshold of how poorly they feel, it's not a pop at you btwNot a great advert for the AZ vaccine: all five of us in our family have got the virus despite me and my wife being double jabbed months ago. My and my son are really very ill too. The other three are just starting.
The thing to remember is this.
In April if you had said this it would be concerning. But then very few people were double jabbed and the majority not. AS we are talking tens of millions then of the numbers not jabbed v being jabbed was always going to be higher.
Now though there are a lot more people jabbed than not jabbed so by sheer numbers even if a small fraction of the double jabbed get it versus a much larger percentage of the not jabbed or one jabbed the numbers will inevitably be higher. Even if in truth they are a small part of those who have been double jabbed,
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Plus we are in the midst of the biggest wave the UK has likely seen so far from this very infectious variant and far fewer of a now very large number of vulnerable double jabbed people are catching it but as overall numbers are way up they will be noticeable.
There is also a degree of confirmation bias as a double jabbed person is going to be more memorable and will tend to seem there are more in proportion than there likely is.
Truth is IF the vaccines were not still doing a slightly less good but still pretty good job versus Delta there is ZERO chance we would be having any kind of freedom day next week. Because the consequences would be only too imaginable. It is ONLY because far fewer of the double jabbed are not catching it - or more correctly not getting very sick from it - as some of us have tried to stress in here from day one is the true aim of the vaccine - we are taking this step into the light knowing it is likely manageable. Three months ago it would have been unthinkable.
As the aim of the vaccines were NEVER to stop you catching it, Just to mitigate the consequences to a level we could readjust toward normality.