Coronavirus (2021) thread

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we can't afford dodgy batches and undermining vaccine confidence. If true (if true!) AZ needs to buck their ideas up. No mistakes.

Totally agree! If it does turn out to be a manufacturing issue then it will be interesting to see if this is actually down to the EU pressuring them to speed up production lines up to speed quicker.
 
we can't afford dodgy batches and undermining vaccine confidence. If true (if true!) AZ needs to buck their ideas up. No mistakes.

There is, as yet, no evidence whatever of any problem with a batch. All action taken has been precautionary.

It was always expected that with 100s of millions of doses there would be coincidental events.

Await the investigation.
 
There is, as yet, no evidence whatever of any problem with a batch. All action taken has been precautionary.

It was always expected that with 100s of millions of doses there would be coincidental events.

Await the investigation.

Most of the reports I was reading about it yesterday emphasised "1 batch" with a few mentioning it had been recalled.


"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is also reviewing the relationship between the AstraZeneca/Oxford Covid-19 vaccine and blood clots, after Austria and six other EU countries suspended the use of a certain batch of AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine, known as batch ABV5300, after blood clot concerns."

Although I cant find one mentioning recall now. to many articles doing the rounds. If there was a concern about the vaccine its self they would have stopped all batches rather than just the one batch. they are certainly working on the assuption the 1 batch has an issue rather than the vaccine.
 
So tired of the conspiracy nonsense. Finally talked my mum into having a job on Sunday, despite her shitting it cos of hearing shite from my brother and auntie, and now obviously this blood clot stuff comes out and she's now scared of the AZ one, which ironically is the one she 'wanted' first cos she'd heard loads of scary stuff about the mRNA stuff. Sigh. She'll still likely go and get it done, but fuck me the damage these people have done.
 
So tired of the conspiracy nonsense. Finally talked my mum into having a job on Sunday, despite her shitting it cos of hearing shite from my brother and auntie, and now obviously this blood clot stuff comes out and she's now scared of the AZ one, which ironically is the one she 'wanted' first cos she'd heard loads of scary stuff about the mRNA stuff. Sigh. She'll still likely go and get it done, but fuck me the damage these people have done.

on the plus side their might be a domino effect - must be harder for your brother to keep up the conspiracy nut stuff when he sees your parents get vaccinated and be fine.
 
Although I cant find one mentioning recall now. to many articles doing the rounds. If there was a concern about the vaccine its self they would have stopped all batches rather than just the one batch. they are certainly working on the assuption the 1 batch has an issue rather than the vaccine.

Yes, but this is purely precautionary, not driven by anything other than the noted adverse events.

There is no evidence whatever there is actually any issue with the batch.

Await Poirot!
 
So tired of the conspiracy nonsense. Finally talked my mum into having a job on Sunday, despite her shitting it cos of hearing shite from my brother and auntie, and now obviously this blood clot stuff comes out and she's now scared of the AZ one, which ironically is the one she 'wanted' first cos she'd heard loads of scary stuff about the mRNA stuff. Sigh. She'll still likely go and get it done, but fuck me the damage these people have done.

Sure I seen an article this morning that 10 million patients in Canada were studied with regards to the blood clots with the AZ vaccine and the conclusions were that there's absolutely no evidence to suggest it causes such things to occur. My details on that might be sketchy, but the very fact that I cannot even find that article again to confirm what i think i have read only serves to highlight how ridiculous the media have became with this stuff. If I wanted to find an article which suggested that AZ might be problematic, I could find it no bother. That is dangerous if not a downright disgrace at this stage.
 
on the plus side their might be a domino effect - must be harder for your brother to keep up the conspiracy nut stuff when he sees your parents get vaccinated and be fine.

Yeah of course. My dad's had his Pfizer one 2 and a half weeks ago and is totally fine. They've just not told him as it's not worth the hassle. Thing is, my brother wasn't even anti-vax until this. He happily had a tetanus shot when we went to Dominican republic with our parents 15 years ago for example. He's just anti-anything the government pushes. He likes to find someone or something to blame. Same with most of these kind of people. I know for a fact he'll shrug and move onto something new when its all over.
 
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