Coronavirus (2021) thread

[roubaixtuesday]

Remember when many were criticising fellow brits for not adhering to lockdown rules whilst our European friends apparently all acted immaculate? I don’t see anyone now praising the general population for how well the vast majority have followed the rules, whereas in Europe there are protests, increased case numbers and a general lack of compliance leading to a surge in cases.

I'll take you up on that!

Since the fiasco of 2020 the UK now has an excellent strategy of suppressing the virus hard whilst vaccinating fast, then opening up in a controlled way.

This has been strongly supported by the population and resulted in going from the worst mortality in the world to nearly the best in Europe in the space of two months.

The next couple of months will be hard, but everyone is optimistic now.

[I think presenting the whole of Europe as a basket case is entirely wrong too btw]

 

[Healdplace]

I think it's very hard to predict exactly what will happen to anyone's economy next. Personally I suspect there will be huge changes (working from home, city centres, perhaps making supply chains more national rather than global, healthcare investment etc etc). And of course for the UK there will be a huge impact of Brexit (without commenting whether for good or ill, just that it will be big).

It is clear, however, from what's already passed, there's no way on earth we'll come out of it net ahead of Germany. It's quite impossible.

I agree and economics is not my thing so I am not going to worry about how we do versus anybody really. Just how WE do period so people still have livelihoods and jobs and some kind of normality - even though working might indeed change radically

I suspect we will give lots of contracts to UK companies to rebuild infrastructure - as we see with what look like daft plans to build a bridge between Scotland and Ireland or a tunnel with a roundabout underneath the Isle of Man.

It might be a big day for all those who ever came up with crackpot plans if someone thinks they will boost jobs and the economy.

But that will be for 2022.

We have to get through 2021 first. And if todays rumours are true that over 60s will be getting a THIRD jab in August to deal with variants a lot of vaccinating still to do.

At this rate by the autumn my arm will be more like a pin cushion.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I don't think this has anything to do with politics.

Adverse events reported => recall batch used, consider risk/benefit of continuing wider programme is a perfectly normal response.

Different juristictions take different views on risk/benefit.

Or do the Democratic Republic of Congo have a political beef with AZ - they've postponed starting their programme?

I mean, I don't necessarily agree it's sensible, after all I had my AZ jab yesterday, but I don't think it's political.

Really? What planet are you on?

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Looks like vaccinations are about to ramp up as reported. 380,000 first and second doses in England yesterday.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Really? What planet are you on?

Really. What's the political beef the DRC have with AstraZeneca? Seriously.

Some countries (Germany) have continued, others (Denmark) have stopped.

Do you think Denmark is politically opposed to the UK, but Germany our ally?

Your position makes no sense.

 

[Healdplace]

Total deaths today - with out of hospital England to come. 133 - was 214 last week,

Big wk to wk fall.

And three nation cases with England to come back under 1000 at 995 - so just!

Last week was 892. So up 103 wk to wk.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

 

[worsleyweb]

Looks like the timing of restrictions vs vaccine roll out have been timed well?

 

[Healdplace]

5534 cases - fall of 1075 and nearer the Zoe app prediction earlier.

First week to week fall in a few days too. Was 6040 last Saturday

121 all settings deaths

A few of todays were old again (12 of the 118 England hospital not in February or March)

But also report one out of hospital England source not reporting today due to tech issues and will report tomorrow. But we are likely talking very small add on at weekends

 

[zerox]

It is clear, however, from what's already passed, there's no way on earth we'll come out of it net ahead of Germany. It's quite impossible.

I thought you were a facts man.
Take the beginning of the year as the approx start of the UK vac push, and the pound is over 5% better than the Euro.
The UK is seen as being far superior to Germany at the moment.