Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

Our wonderful NHS has been shit at infection control for years and still is apparently. 1/3 of all deaths the first wave caught it in hospital. 3rd wave has similar figures.

Hospital transmission is a 'major driver of infection that is still being ignored'

Researchers found that 30 per cent of cases in which patients died, or spent time in critical care, were linked to a recent hospital visit

www.telegraph.co.uk

They learnt nothing apparently.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The UK are the City of this season - battered by early losses and being badly compared to the 'best' so fighting back via the vaccines by planning ahead and reaping the reward and grudging respect. Though with grumbling efforts to tarnish the achievement.

And the EU is Liverpool that is for sure. Starting well, compared v City as examples of how to do it, have a setback, fall apart, arrogance takes root and disarray results and so far behind it will be next season before they can hope to catch up.

I wouldn’t put the U.K. 14 points clear at the top of the League!

I think I would rather be Bayern Munich / New Zealand lol

 

[Len Rum]

The UK are the City of this season - battered by early losses and being badly compared to the 'best' so fighting back via the vaccines by planning ahead and reaping the reward and grudging respect. Though with grumbling efforts to tarnish the achievement.

And the EU is Liverpool that is for sure. Starting well, compared v City as examples of how to do it, have a setback, fall apart, arrogance takes root and disarray results and so far behind it will be next season before they can hope to catch up.

Depends what your measure of success is.
Vaccine roll out definitely successful.
Deaths per capita to date definitely not.
Economic hit definitely not.
But to use your footballing analogy - the season's not over yet.

 

[Healdplace]

Depends what your measure of success is.
Vaccine roll out definitely successful.
Deaths per capita to date definitely not.
Economic hit definitely not.
But to use your footballing analogy - the season's not over yet.

It is for Liverpool in keeping their title if they lose and City win.

But my reply was to a post on vaccine supply and we have done that very well indeed.

Other things less so. But possibly getting the most important thing right as we seem to have done - largely thanks to the NHS superb efforts - is what will matter most in the end.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

No idea what you are talking about but it is scientifically impossible to breed viruses outside living things. Face coverings cannot breed either flu or Covid.

Face coverings by themselves are a lifeless object, right up to the point you breath on them, which is why they came with a warning to use them for 20 minutes maximum, you mat have noticed the advertising on the washable ones that has come out?

 

[moomba]

Extend the school day, make them repeat the year, cutback the summer holiday, do weekend lessons, all been mentioned, and more. Yet not a shred of evidence they work and all spouted by politicians as knee-jerk reaction in a “we must be seen to be doing something “ way. Catch up Tsar, tuition Tsar, etc etc. Talk of kids losing out 40k’s worth of salary based on no research that’s worth a grain of salt. The kids who worked hard before lockdown; the kids who have supportive parents, guess what? They’ll still be the kids who do fine. And those with boneidle parents will struggle. And the pandemic hasn’t changed that one iota. The rush to cram in any so called lost learning is the action of an idiot. It will take time, and we’ll get there, but it needs to be done gradually and evidence based. In a class of 30 there will be a kid who’s first and a kid who’s thirtieth. ‘Twas ever thus and ever shall be.

Bit simplistic that.

 

[worsleyweb]

Depends what your measure of success is.
Vaccine roll out definitely successful.
Deaths per capita to date definitely not.
Economic hit definitely not.
But to use your footballing analogy - the season's not over yet.

Germany and Italy far worse impact on economy - I have read many reports today about how our economy will bounce back far quicker due to the vaccine rollout succes so they are heavility interlinked. We have told the truth on deaths from day one. You are and have been absolutely desperate from day one for us to be the worst as you will go to any length possible to hate the governments efforts as you well know.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland vaccination data:

1, 867, 123 first doses given - 22, 487 today - was 18, 836 yesterday & 26, 197 last week

156, 250 second doses given - 6841 today - was 7976 yesterday & 5884 last week

 

[roubaixtuesday]

This is most likely politics and AZ not delivering quantities expected.

I don't think this has anything to do with politics.

Adverse events reported => recall batch used, consider risk/benefit of continuing wider programme is a perfectly normal response.

Different juristictions take different views on risk/benefit.

Or do the Democratic Republic of Congo have a political beef with AZ - they've postponed starting their programme?

I mean, I don't necessarily agree it's sensible, after all I had my AZ jab yesterday, but I don't think it's political.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Germany and Italy far worse impact on economy - I have read many reports today about how our economy will bounce back far quicker due to the vaccine rollout succes so they are heavility interlinked. We have told the truth on deaths from day one. You are and have been absolutely desperate from day one for us to be the worst as you will go to any length possible to hate the governments efforts as you well know.

Nearly twice as many people have died here than in Germany and their economy has taken a much smaller hit.

Getting out sooner will help, but the overall impact here on both health and economy will be far higher, and there's no way from where we are now that we're going to end up net ahead.

Italy, maybe.