Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Churchlawtonblue said:

According to data on this account people who have had the AZ vaccine have less blood clots than those that have had the Pfiezer one. Obviously I cant vouch for the accuracy of any of the data or website.
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A few things from that thread:
1. AZ results in less post-vax thrombosis than Pfizer OR Moderna
2. Blood clot rate for women taking the pill ~ 100 per millions versus AZ ~ 30 per million.

This is political, isn’t it?
 
Suspect that there is a degree of politics in this matter, with EU countries covering their backs because there is a dearth of vaccine, particularly coming from AZ. Better, instead, to have a moratorium that you can then use to explain why, over the next fortnight, quite so few are being vaccinated. Countries are saying they won't resume using it until the end of the month, irrespective of EMA approval, by which time I would imagine more supplies will serendipitously arrive from Pfizer.
 
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Murph said:
Has there been any reports of people in the UK having blood clots after having the Oxford/AZ jab? Think well over 10M UK citizen's have had that particular vaccine.
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In the data we were shown a few days ago it was around 13 if I recall - BELOW the expected number based on population. And actually a couple fewer than the Pfizer jab showed.

Neither were anything other than normal numbers that would have occurred in the population without the vaccine.

But if the AZ one is a problem then what of the Pfizer one which was worse?

The claim is that the European numbers are worse than those here.

The theory is a bad batch only supplied to Europe.

But as far more have been given in the UK than anywhere any generic vaccine related problem would surely have made itself obvious after 3 or 4 months.
 
Healdplace said:
In the data we were shown a few days ago it was around 13 if I recall - BELOW the expected number based on population. And actually a couple fewer than the Pfizer jab showed.

Neither were anything other than normal numbers that would have occurred in the population without the vaccine.

But if the AZ one is a problem then what of the Pfizer one which was worse?

The claim is that the European numbers are worse than those here.

The theory is a bad batch only supplied to Europe.

But as far more have been given in the UK than anywhere any generic vaccine related problem would surely have made itself obvious after 3 or 4 months.
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If it was a bad batch, surely this would have been found out during testing in each country? I think each batch is tested twice in the UK, it all seems a bit fishy to me.
 
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