Coronavirus (2021) thread

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The US test results on Astra Zeneca today are really stunning and ought to shut a few critics up.

100% effectivity in keeping those taking it from serious illness needing hospitalisation.

That was always the goal. Not stopping you getting it entirely. Which so many people never seem to have understood.

The reason nobody has created a vaccine for the common cold is that it is not far off 100% effective in this measure on its own without a vaccine. Even if nearly everyone catches one every year or so.

If it was even a fraction as capable of making people seriously ill we would have probably found one by now.

Not catching covid is not really what matters. Hence why case number now are much less important than they were and hospital numbers and icu ventilator numbers are what shows where we are. Along, of course, with deaths.
 
The BBC reported in the story that there is no known case of a person dying from Covid from a few weeks after having been fully vaccinated. I think they inferred in the world.

That seems a pretty unlikely statistic to me but in general terms even if it is just 'almost' true that would be amazing.
 
The BBC reported in the story that there is no known case of a person dying from Covid from a few weeks after having been fully vaccinated. I think they inferred in the world.

That seems a pretty unlikely statistic to me but in general terms even if it is just 'almost' true that would be amazing.
In many ways that seems like the post i have been hoping to read for a year now. Absolutely fantastic if that bears out to be true.
 
It's down to individual surgeries who get given supplies to vaccinate their patients if they have a larger supply than demand rather than waste it they will go outside the current cohort, I believe they have been told not to do this now although am aware that the site on the car park at Morrisons in Winsford will still grab a few shoppers if they have opened a vial at the end of shift which can leave a few doses. If you have a pharmacy based center like that near you may be worth lingering half hour before they close.
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I didn't think people were allowed to do this?
 
so Boris expects the current wave on mainland Europe to come to the UK; "on the continent right now you can see, sadly, there is a third wave under way, and ...previous experience has taught us that that when a wave hits our friends, it I’m afraid washes up on our shores as well. And I expect that we will feel those effects in due course."

hmm. i'd rather got the impression that the wave in mainland europe was lagging behind our kent variant-driven wave of Dec/Jan? he is saying we are to expect another wave? as that would mean goodbye to roadmap as we know it.
 
The BBC reported in the story that there is no known case of a person dying from Covid from a few weeks after having been fully vaccinated. I think they inferred in the world.

That seems a pretty unlikely statistic to me but in general terms even if it is just 'almost' true that would be amazing.
That's fantastic but @cleavers said on here a couple of weeks ago that he knew of someone who died of Covid some time after they had their second jab. Now I'm not sure how many weeks after their second vaccination it was - it could be that they were unlucky enough to catch it before full efficacy kicked in?
 
so Boris expects the current wave on mainland Europe to come to the UK; "on the continent right now you can see, sadly, there is a third wave under way, and ...previous experience has taught us that that when a wave hits our friends, it I’m afraid washes up on our shores as well. And I expect that we will feel those effects in due course."

hmm. i'd rather got the impression that the wave in mainland europe was lagging behind our kent variant-driven wave of Dec/Jan? he is saying we are to expect another wave? as that would mean goodbye to roadmap as we know it.
Yeh that's what I think too, seen it mentioned before but don't really understand the thinking behind it. There should be no third wave with the restriction map we have in place plus the vaccines.

Europe on the other hand are going to struggle for a while longer, which made the whole pausing the AZ vaccine even more ridiculous IMO.
 
so Boris expects the current wave on mainland Europe to come to the UK; "on the continent right now you can see, sadly, there is a third wave under way, and ...previous experience has taught us that that when a wave hits our friends, it I’m afraid washes up on our shores as well. And I expect that we will feel those effects in due course."

hmm. i'd rather got the impression that the wave in mainland europe was lagging behind our kent variant-driven wave of Dec/Jan? he is saying we are to expect another wave? as that would mean goodbye to roadmap as we know it.
It might just be a bit of politics at play given the EUs recent threats. He maybe saying it like "we're still going to be effected by this and that's why we still need our vaccines". This is true, but you'd think we'll be better off numbers wise due to the fact we've largely protected the most vulnerable.
 
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