Coronavirus (2021) thread

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so Boris expects the current wave on mainland Europe to come to the UK; "on the continent right now you can see, sadly, there is a third wave under way, and ...previous experience has taught us that that when a wave hits our friends, it I’m afraid washes up on our shores as well. And I expect that we will feel those effects in due course."

hmm. i'd rather got the impression that the wave in mainland europe was lagging behind our kent variant-driven wave of Dec/Jan? he is saying we are to expect another wave? as that would mean goodbye to roadmap as we know it.
Here we go again
 
That's fantastic but @cleavers said on here a couple of weeks ago that he knew of someone who died of Covid some time after they had their second jab. Now I'm not sure how many weeks after their second vaccination it was - it could be that they were unlucky enough to catch it before full efficacy kicked in?
They had their 2nd jab in early January, and died in early March, having been in hospital free from covid. It seems that they caught it there (in a part of the hospital not close to a covid ward), recovered, went home (retirement place my parents live), developed a serious infection, tested positive, was admitted to a covid ward, and died within a few days.

The person was 95, and to my knowledge was fairly active for 95, which caused the first hospital admission.
 
so Boris expects the current wave on mainland Europe to come to the UK; "on the continent right now you can see, sadly, there is a third wave under way, and ...previous experience has taught us that that when a wave hits our friends, it I’m afraid washes up on our shores as well. And I expect that we will feel those effects in due course."

hmm. i'd rather got the impression that the wave in mainland europe was lagging behind our kent variant-driven wave of Dec/Jan? he is saying we are to expect another wave? as that would mean goodbye to roadmap as we know it.
Again, this makes absolutely no sense.

Last year it was true simply because we sat and watching things pick up in Europe before we did anything here so we followed what they did.. but since the turn of the year we’ve gone on completely different paths - they’ve had schools/hospitality etc open to varying degrees depending on which country and have barely vaccinated anyone, whilst we’ve been in an incredibly strict 3 month long lockdown and vaccinated over half the adult population.

There are some very worrying comments coming out from the government/scientists at the minute about our future.

Sounds like the “road map” is getting fucked off.
 
It might just be a bit of politics at play given the EUs recent threats. He maybe saying it like "we're still going to be effected by this and that's why we still need our vaccines". This is true, but you'd think we'll be better off numbers wise due to the fact we've largely protected the most vulnerable.
i think it does rather sound like politicking to me
 
Again, this makes absolutely no sense.

Last year it was true simply because we sat and watching things pick up in Europe before we did anything here so we followed what they did.. but since the turn of the year we’ve gone on completely different paths - they’ve had schools/hospitality etc open to varying degrees depending on which country and have barely vaccinated anyone, whilst we’ve been in an incredibly strict 3 month long lockdown and vaccinated over half the adult population.

There are some very worrying comments coming out from the government/scientists at the minute about our future.

Sounds like the “road map” is getting fucked off.
i wouldn't go as far as your last line, i think it's going to be largely politics and making himself look good when it doesnt happen to anywhere near the same degree, but it's a pretty see through play by Johnson. he is never this precautious, ever. straight from the behavioral 'nudging' playbook perhaps.
 
Nightclubs reopen without restrictions in Israel tonight, bars and restaurants been open for 2 weeks. Why can’t we expect to be back to normal by September if they are pretty much there already?
Uk is an international travel hub. Tel Aviv is not.
 
They had their 2nd jab in early January, and died in early March, having been in hospital free from covid. It seems that they caught it there (in a part of the hospital not close to a covid ward), recovered, went home (retirement place my parents live), developed a serious infection, tested positive, was admitted to a covid ward, and died within a few days.

The person was 95, and to my knowledge was fairly active for 95, which caused the first hospital admission.
That is a sad story, and as I said I thought the statistic unlikely.

But dying of Covid is often different from dying with Covid. I expect particularly at 95. As unhappily I know from within my own family.
 
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