Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Another lockdown won't happen with Delta.
There is no longer a willingness of a sufficient percentage of the population to participate.
In a post caccinatiom world, cases are only a guidence for expected hospitalisations and deaths.
Only vaccination will reduce numbers and sadly too many don't want the jab.

Obviously they can force pubs etc to shut and if they do that, then there won't be a choice but to conform.

As for any other restrictions though they can get fucked. Any more of that "stay in your local area" blah blah blah can get in the bin, I won't be doing any of it and neither will 90% of people. We've had our vaccines, time to just move on.

I say this with the caveat that I don't believe for a second the government have any appetite to do any of this, and I wouldn't believe a word of anything I read in the 'I'. Remember when the Independent used to be a real newspaper?

 

[Bluesince1979]

Yes, I'm very sure of that.

"One long holiday"...get your head out of your arse.

Hes right to a point im afraid. Ive worked in more than a few houses where they are enjoying life on furlough. Dont want to go back to work.
one or two even half admitting that theyve delayed going back to work as they “dont feel safe” , said with a wink.

its not loads, but its enough for me to take notice

 

[BlueAnorak]

Too many don’t want the jab?

We’re at 89% of the adult population having had their first dose.

It’s an amazing number far bigger than I thought we’d hit.

Better than that in older age groups but much less than that in U35s 70% or so. Sadly with Delta, that has some break out from vaccination, that is too many to bring case numbers down to low enough levels.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

You do realise nobody chose to be on furlough? And for many of those who were, as well as dealing with the pandemic they had to deal with the mental health pressure of having potential redundancy loom over the heads for months and months on end.

And then potential redundancy soon turning into actual redundancy after transferring the work abroad. That was the reality of furlough in my experience.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

And then potential redundancy soon turning into actual redundancy after transferring the work abroad. That was the reality of furlough in my experience.

Sorry to hear that - hope you managed to find a new job.

I work in the music / entertainment / events sector. I know a lot of people who have lost their jobs and moved onto other industries. Lots of them were on furlough, including myself for a bit. None of them were "on holiday", but all were terrified about how they were going to feed their families.

 

[Healdplace]

SCOTLAND DATA

16 deaths - was 7 last week - big rise here

5692 cases - was 6029 last week - a small fall is good

13.2% positivity - was 14.9% last week - a decent drop is also good

805 patients - up 34 on yesterday - was 585 last week - still rising upwards

77 ventilated icu - up 6 on yesterday - was 54 last week - nearly a 50% rise in these numbers is sarting to show the legacy of weeks of big cases in the hospital numbers.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Sorry to hear that - hope you managed to find a new job.

I work in the music / entertainment / events sector. I know a lot of people who have lost their jobs and moved onto other industries. Lots of them were on furlough, including myself for a bit. None of them were "on holiday", but all were terrified about how they were going to feed their families.

Had a few redundancies now and hardened up to it. Soon got another job. Thanks.

 

[Healdplace]

NORTHERN IRELAND DATA

7 deaths - was 6 last week

1748 cases - was 1313 last week

7.1% positivity - was 7.3% last week

10, 316 weekly cases - was 10, 024 yesterday & 10, 620 last week

131 Care Home outbreaks - was 134 yesterday & 135 last week

434 patients - was 407 yesterday & 391 last week - these are starting to rise now

35 ventilated - down 1 on yesterday - was 32 last week

 

[grunge]

Sorry to hear that - hope you managed to find a new job.

I work in the music / entertainment / events sector. I know a lot of people who have lost their jobs and moved onto other industries. Lots of them were on furlough, including myself for a bit. None of them were "on holiday", but all were terrified about how they were going to feed their families.

Its a bit late now as its coming to an end but a mate of mine lost his job just before all this kicked off, he started his own company during lockdown and trained himself up into an entirely new industry. If you were doing official training then Furlough was 100% salary, a salary which he had set ( a reasonable figure but I guess some will have abused this ) due to being in a start up business.

Its a shame the training side wasn't advertised as much. companies could have entirely invigorated there staff skill sets while furloughed.

 

[Healdplace]

WEEKLY CASES BY AGE NORTHERN IRELAND

0 - 19 (3916) 38.0%

20 - 39 (2823) 27.4%

40 - 59 (2388) 22.7%

60 - 79 (952) 9.2%

80 PLUS (286) 2.7%

The gap between the under 20s is growing daily By far now the biggest numbers catching Covid are children and teens.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Its a bit late now as its coming to an end but a mate of mine lost his job just before all this kicked off, he started his own company during lockdown and trained himself up into an entirely new industry. If you were doing official training then Furlough was 100% salary, a salary which he had set ( a reasonable figure but I guess some will have abused this ) due to being in a start up business.

Its a shame the training side wasn't advertised as much. companies could have entirely invigorated there staff skill sets while furloughed.

While to their credit I do think the government - Sunak in particular - got more right than wrong with the furlough scheme, I agree that a lot of elements such as the training schemes weren't advertised properly. And particularly, the self employed / freelancers were thrown to the wolves to an extent.

 

[Healdplace]

So the total deaths with England out of hospital to come today is 208.

The total after out of hospital add ons last week was 207 (on Wednesday - the fairer comparison because of the Bank Holiday delay)

Likely to be a new high since last Winter today.

 

[Healdplace]

And the three nation cases total with England to add is:- 9944

Last week at this stage it was 11,214 (though that was with the double day Welsh numbers)


England added just 20, 967 to total 32, 181

This was the lowest England total in some weeks.

Yesterday England added 27, 202 to the UK total of 41, 192

So we are likely to have another number around 40K today presumably.

We will see.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So the total deaths with England out of hospital to come today is 208.

The total after out of hospital add ons last week was 207 (on Wednesday - the fairer comparison because of the Bank Holiday delay)

Likely to be a new high since last Winter today.

blimey

 

[splinter]

So the total deaths with England out of hospital to come today is 208.

The total after out of hospital add ons last week was 207 (on Wednesday - the fairer comparison because of the Bank Holiday delay)

Likely to be a new high since last Winter today.

Hope more treatments arrive soon

 

[antspider]

It's a lot more about the psychology of not liking being told to do something that actual concerns with the vaccine behind most anti Vax sentiment imho.

I think you have hit the nail on the head for a lot of people refusing it,, then different reasons are used in their arguments for not having it.. Shame some on here want them dead tho

 

[Healdplace]

blimey

The week to week rise was modest. It is always the highest on Tuesdays because of the weekend catch up due to lack of registration.

The total week to week numbers in England hospital deaths may yet finish lower than last week. Indeed the first five days of the current weekly 5 day total - at 350 is exactly the same as the first 5 days last week.

There is no big increase in death numbers as yet.

The highest number of deaths on any single day - August 24 - is on 85.

 

[Manc in London]

It's a lot more about the psychology of not liking being told to do something that actual concerns with the vaccine behind most anti Vax sentiment imho.

They must struggle in life then as being part of a society involves being told what you can and cannot do.

I cannot help but think some people get round to making this point after the anti vaccine (and often anti mask) arguments they espouse, often based on nonsense they read on Facebook, have been exposed to be weak.

I am also not sure how this explains the significant and stark differences of vaccine take-up by age.

 

[Manc in London]

Hes right to a point im afraid. Ive worked in more than a few houses where they are enjoying life on furlough. Dont want to go back to work.
one or two even half admitting that theyve delayed going back to work as they “dont feel safe” , said with a wink.

its not loads, but its enough for me to take notice

I would guess that a few are taking on other jobs at the same time, making significantly more money. I know of a handful.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Do you think that it is still experimental?

We know that complete lock down works but other than that different theories from the scientific experts seem to be selected by our decision makers to try out.

What happened to safety first?

Safety first? Don’t get in your car, you’ll never crash. Don’t drink booze, eat bad food or smoke and there’s a very good chance cancer won‘t get you.

As for lockdowns, we know that complete lockdown probably moves the peak of the virus further into the future. We also know they cause economic devastation which will only manifest itself in years of ill health to come. Now, if we were fighting a single disease with a huge mortality rate that, following lockdown would be over with, they might be a good idea, but only if that was the single Public Health issue we had to deal with.