Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Indaparkside]

As Boris has now spoken and said that 2 fully vaccinated people cannot meet indoors, as the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, it seems the chances of this being over are receding in inverse proportion to the data improving.

Was that after his medication or before

 

[unicorn]

On the theme of good news, it’s been a refreshing change for the BBC to have focussed on young entrepreneurs, over the last couple of days, who have started new businesses during the pandemic. I wish these folks the best of luck.

There's some really positive stories.

In my bit of Sheffield (Hillsborough) alone there's been two new dessert shop/cafes, a bakery and two beer shop/bars opened by young(ish) folk since I arrived, which might just show they're targeting me but does suggest there's some good business opportunities out there.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Oh, the joys of politics invading the thread.

Covid and Politics are intertwined

 

[Blue and still suffering]

As Boris has now spoken and said that 2 fully vaccinated people cannot meet indoors, as the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, it seems the chances of this being over are receding in inverse proportion to the data improving.

Then how can he go further down his road map? Opening up pubs would contradict that advice or am I missing something?
Also Israel are allowing people to do so and the CDC in America have also stated that is okay.
Maybe he has seen how people stretch the rules here so doesn't want jeopardise the current easing process.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

New Zealand is the most southerly inhabited county in the world. Chile has a few outcrops with a population of 36 which are slightly more to the south but apart from Antarctica with a few scientific stations that's it. It is the most remote low/medium sized country anywhere.

I think those countries benefit from being destinations rather than hubs. Our airports and I suppose many of the large European ones are places where people pass through/change flights more than those you mentioned. Heathrow and Gatwick must be vast human petri-dishes in the big scheme of things.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Then how can he go further down his road map? Opening up pubs would contradict that advice or am I missing something?
Also Israel are allowing people to do so and the CDC in America have also stated that is okay.
Maybe he has seen how people stretch the rules here so doesn't want jeopardise the current easing process.

Or, maybe, it’s not an act at all and he’s really as clueless as he seems to be........

 

[Gray]

Has any body been keeping an eye on the vaccination data?

On the 24th March all the previous data was amended and then yesterday they did the same to the 7 days before.

No explaination just the previous published figures altered.

 

[Marvin]

As Boris has now spoken and said that 2 fully vaccinated people cannot meet indoors, as the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, it seems the chances of this being over are receding in inverse proportion to the data improving.

Vaccination stops you getting a serious case of Covid. It also reduces the possibility of transmission but it doesn't eliminate it entirely. So when 1 in 300 have the virus you have to be careful especially when half the population haven't been vaccinated. The lower the prevalence, and the higher proportion of people that are vaccinated, the less restrictions that are required and you can say to vaccinated people that you can mix.

If we look in the UK in isolation, 31m have had 1 vaccine dose, 5m have had 2 doses. We are well on our way to vaccinating the population. However, we are an island on the globe.

We will know this is ending when we outrun the virus globally. At the moment I don't know the extent to which the virus is evolving. If I don't know that, then all I can do is play the numbers game. If the global pandemic comes under control through vaccination and natural immunity, then we will reach a point when a 2nd variant vaccine will enable us to exit the cycle. The best scenario is that we don't even need a variant vaccine because the variants don't or can't evolve far enough.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Vaccination stops you getting a serious case of Covid. It also reduces the possibility of transmission but it doesn't eliminate it entirely. So when 1 in 300 have the virus you have to be careful especially when half the population haven't been vaccinated. The lower the prevalence, and the higher proportion of people that are vaccinated, the less restrictions that are required and you can say to vaccinated people that you can mix.

If we look in the UK in isolation, 31m have had 1 vaccine dose, 5m have had 2 doses. We are well on our way to vaccinating the population. However, we are an island on the globe.

We will know this is ending when we outrun the virus globally. At the moment I don't know the extent to which the virus is evolving. If I don't know that, then all I can do is play the numbers game. If the global pandemic comes under control through vaccination and natural immunity, then we will reach a point when a 2nd variant vaccine will enable us to exit the cycle. The best scenario is that we don't even need a variant vaccine because the variants don't or can't evolve far enough.

Whilst I’m sure all that is correct, if 2 fully vaccinated people cannot meet up indoors, he must have changed the goalposts (yet again) and be back to a zero Covid strategy, which is impossible to achieve. Meanwhile, the current and future deaths related to lockdown and it’s effects, continue unabated.

 

[Marvin]

Whilst I’m sure all that is correct, if 2 fully vaccinated people cannot meet up indoors, he must have changed the goalposts (yet again) and be back to a zero Covid strategy, which is impossible to achieve. Meanwhile, the current and future deaths related to lockdown and it’s effects, continue unabated.

I hope the current Covid measures are temporary and will change according to overall risk and virus levels.