Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

1954 cases for England is the lowest in 7 months (5 September).

 

[ganganvince]

But proper restaurants do or you don’t get it, my point is retail is far worse than eating somewhere

Yes get your point but all hospitality is classed as one, the well run eateries that respected the rules and the one scotch egg between half a dozen and stay till your bladdered establishments

 

[Healdplace]

As you might expect some absurdly low numbers today that will not be genuinely reflective and likely mess up the next week's data by falling like a brick then rising.

If not and this is even close to a real fall then we are well and truly out of this as I never saw a number this low even with the cases from Wales and N Ireland missing and the England number alone is 893 down from 2847 yesterday.

It is last Summer (July I think) since the NW last had a number as low as today. Just 299. GM has been higher than that on its own most days up to the past few. And was only 44 less than that on its own yesterday.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I don't see the 'drama' at all. I pointed out the run on AZ.

We are glad to have alternatives. We know, if we only had AZ it would be fully vaccinated without hesitation as the benefits by far outweigh risks. No debate there.

What we don't know by now is the risk profile when vaccinating millions of females between 20 and 50, an age group with lower risks for severe covid cases.

I have the impression AZ is a story about national pride, whereas for me it's only about efficacy and safety profile of a vaccine.

National pride?
No.
I understand the risk but it is so low the risk benefit equation is being applied in such a way that it will result in many, many deaths on the continent.
A better way to encourage vaccine hesitancy I cannot imagine.
It is crazy, just crazy.

 

[Healdplace]

Regional Highlights:

SOUTH

East down 69 to 158

London down 113 to 237

South East down 24 to 212

South West down 33 to 82 - a new lowest score for any England region as far as I can remember


MIDLANDS

East down 109 to 282

West down 94 to 209



NORTH

North East down 72 to 94 - and amazing not a new record but is for the North East.

Yorkshire down 229 - most in a while for any region - to 384

And

North West down 138 to 299.

First time sub 300 in I think 9 months.

 

[BlueAnorak]

National pride?
No.
I understand the risk but it is so low the risk benefit equation is being applied in such a way that it will result in many, many deaths on the continent.
A better way to encourage vaccine hesitancy I cannot imagine.
It is crazy, just crazy.

Then there is the politics.
EU politicians detest the fact that the UK has vaccinated better than the EU and it should be noted that senior medics in charge on the continent are in the main political appointments.
Macron said the vaccine was Quaizi ineffective, Mutti refused to have it. etc etc.
Then you have the vaccine "Wars" -
Soon the EU will have a stash of so many AZ vaccines they could inoculate a few smaller EU countries in a day!
It looks like an attempt to lay the blame elsewhere to me. It doesn't look like it has fooled the people though by the state of EU polls.

 

[Healdplace]

Greater Manchester highlights

As you might expect a few!

Several boroughs with the lowest score in many months.

GM Total just 171 - a fall of 84. This is the lowest in over 6 months.

It is down from 281 last Sunday and 492 the Sunday before.

This is slightly under the average from the NW total so improved the GM % by 1.3% to 57.1% of NW

Manchester 'top' scored on just 34 - down 30 and certainly lowest in 6 months. Possibly longer. (down 21 wk to wk)

Wigan second on 23 (down 21 wk to wk) but up 6 on yesterday.

Rochdale was third and only other over 20 on 21 (down just 1 wk to wk) and 13 lower than yesterday

Tameside and Bolton both on 17 - down wk to wk 13 and 24 respectively and down 10 and 6 respectively from yesterday.

Trafford one less on 16 - actually UP on yesterday's 15 - but down 17 wk to wk

Bury next on 14 - up 2 but down 7 wk to wk and now had 7 consecutive sub 20 totals here.

Stockport another with a lowest in many months - on just 11 down 16 on the day and 5 week to week.

Oldham went one better on just 10 - 16 down on the day too and 8 down wk to wk.

But the star of the show was a recently much improved Salford.

It had its lowest Pop rise in 6 months (just 3 on the day - lowest in GM this year) and just EIGHT cases. Only Trafford has had a lower score this year.

This is Salford's fourth straight fall from 43 via 21, 15, and 10 yesterday. And 14 down wk to wk.



Pretty sure Easter Sunday will be a factor (it was last year - I checked and numbers fell by about 50% just on this day - but it was then on 12 April at the peak of the first wave and testing was much less than even what they did today I expect).

So If these numbers are anything like 'real' they are a big shift in the right direction.

 

[Healdplace]

52 areas in England have in the last 7 days had ZERO cases of people over 70 testing positive.

Most are in the south but Burnley - once really badly hit - was one up north.

This is one reason these amazing figures are not entirely misleading today.

 

[Healdplace]

273. 568 UK vaccine doses given today

Total is:

31. 523, 010 first doses

That is 46.3% of the UK population

And about 57 % of the over 18s.

5, 381, 745 second doses

 

[Blue Maverick]

Yes get your point but all hospitality is classed as one, the well run eateries that respected the rules and the one scotch egg between half a dozen and stay till your bladdered establishments

That’s when enforcement comes in, police walk in shut it down massive fine, can’t open for two weeks, they’d soon get the message, no ifs or buts.