Coronavirus (2021) thread

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

“Everyone will be able to take a free rapid coronavirus test twice a week from the 9th April. Reclaiming our lost freedoms & getting back to normal hinges on us all getting tested regularly.” Matt Hancock, 5th April.
So we can only get our freedoms if we all get tested regularly?
I thought it was if the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed or if we all wore masks, or hospitalisations and deaths fell, or the vulnerable got vaccinated? Or is it if we agreed to vaccine passports?

Is it just a few more weeks, a few more months or a couple of years?I’m sure it’s all obvious to some of you but I'm losing track....

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I see a summer of discontent bubbling away....so much social frustration at the moment.....

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Talk that the AZ jab may be suspended in under 30s as soon as tomorrow by the MHRA

If that happens, May 17th and June 21th will be an absolute pipedream.

There are not enough vaccines on stream yet to take the slack from that up and the added damage to a vaccine with an already poor reputation, will likely be irreversible.

Never fear. Johnson's here.

Millennials to get single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine in 'jab and go' July

The Janssen jab could prove to be more cost-effective than others and speed up the pace of the vaccine programme, offering younger people the chance to start enjoying summer sooner when the rollout reaches them

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Talk that the AZ jab may be suspended in under 30s as soon as tomorrow by the MHRA

If that happens, May 17th and June 21th will be an absolute pipedream.

There are not enough vaccines on stream yet to take the slack from that up and the added damage to a vaccine with an already poor reputation, will likely be irreversible.

Will a few days suspension have much effect?

I think there are about 25M under 30s, so there is still 9M over 30s to be done (assuming total pop of UK is 65M) A suspension now has no immediate effect on the vaccination schedule, and the other vaccines will be available in due course.

 

[blue for life]

Hang on a minute! 21st June is when all restrictions are supposed to be lifted. On the other hand we are being briefed about possible Covid passports etc and possible medium term use of masks and social distancing. What’s going on?

 

[03 March 2002]

“Everyone will be able to take a free rapid coronavirus test twice a week from the 9th April. Reclaiming our lost freedoms & getting back to normal hinges on us all getting tested regularly.” Matt Hancock, 5th April.
So we can only get our freedoms if we all get tested regularly?
I thought it was if the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed or if we all wore masks, or hospitalisations and deaths fell, or the vulnerable got vaccinated? Or is it if we agreed to vaccine passports?

Is it just a few more weeks, a few more months or a couple of years?I’m sure it’s all obvious to some of you but I'm losing track....

Christ you're insufferable.

Clearly, available and rapid testing is required to help identify outbreaks and shut them down asap. Do you want your freedoms or not? Do you have a better plan to achieve post-pandemic utopia?

 

[unicorn]

Why the doom and gloom ? Didn’t he announce we’re all systems go for the current roadmap out of lockdown ?
which seemed unrealistic a couple months ago.

And you wrote that before going 4th !

Yes, I'm totally bewildered by all the negativity on here and across the media. This road map seems to be progressing smoothly and although vaccination has slowed a bit we'll still have the most vulnerable jabbed.

Shops, barbers and pubs (outside) open next week, indoor hospitality 5 weeks later if the next step works OK, and a fair chance of getting live music by the Autumn. Couldn't care less about papers/jabs/passports to be honest.

Works for me, but I'm obviously missing something.

 

[mat]

Hang on a minute! 21st June is when all restrictions are supposed to be lifted. On the other hand we are being briefed about possible Covid passports etc and possible medium term use of masks and social distancing. What’s going on?

Boris knows fuck all as usual and trying to cover all bases.

It looks like he's banking on self testing and vaccinations to ensure there isn't another lockdown.

Surely he can't fuck this up?

Oh wait it's Boris...

 

[Scottyboi]

why the ban? Clotting? Seems to have been a very gloomy day.

So from what the daily mail are running 30 people out of 18.1 million which have been vaccinated with Astrazenica developed a blood clot of which 7 have died.

I'm no mathematician but are they saying people under 30 have a higher chance of dying from the vaccine than covid itself?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Importance diminishing and research grants disappearing. Just remember, you’re not allowed to say such things. Welcome to the world of being anti-society and a Covid denier........

All joking aside though, given that press conference, there must be another agenda in play here. Whitty confirms Covid is here in perpetuity, the vaccine roll out and success unimagined a few months ago, all the data pointing to great success and yet we will need social distancing and masks until at least next year? Bypassing parliament for vaccine passports?
Remember 3 weeks to flatten the curve. Then temporary tiers. Then no schools as they put up the R number by at least 0.7. A second lockdown to save Christmas, Christmas cancelled to prevent another lockdown, a third lockdown to save Easter with a promise of normality is the vaccine was a success. Data not dates, but only if the data is worse, it’s dates not data if that’s not the case. Restrictions lifted in June provided no new bad data. There is no new bad data and yet it’s all change yet again. That’s without everyone taking 2 Covid test a week. Assuming a false positive rate of only 0.1% and 80 million tests a week, that’s a false posited number of 80000 a week or 11200 a day. Bearing in mind that the FP rate is reckoned to be 4 times that at 0.4%, it can never end.
Good job he’s passing legislation to ban protests or people might start getting a tad hacked off. The goalposts haven’t just been moved but they are on a different continent and moving further away every week....

Sorry but one idiotic modelling survey whose predicted outcomes are bollox does not change my mind as to science.
Modelling is only science if the inputs are not bollox and in this case the outcomes look wrong on just about every level (see herd immunity) so the inputs are clearly crap...
The only way it works is with a variant that bypasses the vaccine and they explicitly rule that out. So it's bollox.