Coronavirus (2021) thread

BimboBob

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I have a question.

The government figures always start with...

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

Does this really mean they all died of covid or other causes but they also had covid?

Figures might be a bit inflated if someone tested positive and then was run over. They would count wouldn't they?

Confused myself probably.
 

Cityfan

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I have a question.

The government figures always start with...

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

Does this really mean they all died of covid or other causes but they also had covid?

Figures might be a bit inflated if someone tested positive and then was run over. They would count wouldn't they?

Confused myself probably.
No way of counting the deaths will be 100% accurate.
The deaths within 28 days will give a quick reasonable approximation. Some will be missed because they die more than 28 days later and a few will have died of something else. This probably undecounts rather than overcounts because more die after 28 days.
The ONS count which is more delayed is probably more accurate and records what is written on the death certificate.
 

artfuldodger

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I have a question.

The government figures always start with...

Deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

Does this really mean they all died of covid or other causes but they also had covid?

Figures might be a bit inflated if someone tested positive and then was run over. They would count wouldn't they?

Confused myself probably.
Our friend died of lung cancer in hospital. But whilst in there he tested positive for COVID. So he counts as a COVID death.
 

Hutchymcfc

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No way of counting the deaths will be 100% accurate.
The deaths within 28 days will give a quick reasonable approximation. Some will be missed because they die more than 28 days later and a few will have died of something else. This probably undecounts rather than overcounts because more die after 28 days.
The ONS count which is more delayed is probably more accurate and records what is written on the death certificate.
Is this how other countrys report it too
 

Tim of the Oak

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Some GPs are reporting that many people who ignored invitations for vaccines early in the roll out are now booking for jabs. They have seen the success of the vaccine programme. I saw this on the news this morning and thought it was useful to balance fears that people might be put off going to be vaccinated.
 

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Daily second doses.

DateSorted column (descending) - Apply ascending sort.
United Kingdom dailyUnsorted column - Apply ascending sort.
United Kingdom totalUnsorted column - Apply ascending sort.
07-04-2021 408,396 6,091,905
06-04-2021 186,793 5,683,509
05-04-2021 64,590 5,496,716
04-04-2021 47,708 5,432,126
03-04-2021 178,913 5,384,418
02-04-2021 246,631 5,205,505

Daily first doses

DateSorted column (descending) - Apply ascending sort.
United Kingdom dailyUnsorted column - Apply ascending sort.
United Kingdom totalUnsorted column - Apply ascending sort.
07-04-2021 99,530 31,807,124
06-04-2021 85,227 31,707,594
05-04-2021 40,744 31,622,367
04-04-2021 48,055 31,581,623
03-04-2021 107,886 31,533,568
02-04-2021 107,420 31,425,682
01-04-2021 170,818 31,318,262
Back to half a million doses again on the 7th after the Easter holiday, sounds good news. Still a decent number for 1st doses too.
 

roubaixtuesday

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Is this how other countrys report it too

Everyone does it slightly differently.

The gold standard for comparison between countries is "excess deaths" - the number above those you would expect at the time of year.

That measure requires very careful analysis for true comparisons. Generally, whilst different, it gives similar trends tob the published figures.

In the first wave, UK was pretty much the highest excess deaths in the entire world - here's a definitive study in a top journal.


Second wave, I expect we would be more middle of the pack.
 

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