Coronavirus (2021) thread

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roubaixtuesday said:
No, this is just wrong.

Nobody knew exactly how effective vaccines would be, or how wide the take up would be.

A range of scenarios with different assumptions was looked at.

That's not "being wrong", it's dealing with uncertainty.
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Sorry no. They had provisional information from Israel and from UK Pfizer vaccinations but published anyway.
The only conclusion I can come to is they did it to scare the public. This is highly unethical in the world of health statistics but they did it anyway.
There was a story on this a week ago. This was the Telegraph take:
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Sorry no. They had provisional information from Israel and from UK Pfizer vaccinations but published anyway.
The only conclusion I can come to is they did it to scare the public. This is highly unethical in the world of health statistics but they did it anyway.
There was a story on this a week ago. This w
As the Telegraph take:
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Yes but we are not directly comparable with Israel. Our houses don’t get bombed if we refuse the vaccine!
 
BlueAnorak said:
Admittedly they didn't use real world UK or Israeli data but why produce such brazenly wrong models in the first place?
The only reason is to scare the public as highlighted in other news stories this week. A highly unethical practice in health statistics circles.
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This is, frankly, complete conspiracy bollocks.

Independent modellers produced broadly similar outputs covering a range of scenarios.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Yeah, I had mine last week after 8 weeks, switched my wife’s from end of month to Saturday just gone, which was 8 weeks for her too. Easy on the link.
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Do you have to wait for the link or can you just update on the website?
 
roubaixtuesday said:
This is, frankly, complete conspiracy bollocks.

Independent modellers produced broadly similar outputs covering a range of scenarios.
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Without quotes, I would agree with you, but do tell me why Government Sage Sub Committee members(Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group) have said explicitly that some if their behaviour has been unethical?
www.telegraph.co.uk

Use of fear to control behaviour in Covid crisis was ‘totalitarian’, admit scientists

Members of Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour express regret about ‘unethical’ methods
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
Regional Cases Today



Cases show up or down on yesterday and the v number is versus 7 days ago.



SOUTH

East down 40 to 122 v 199

London down 5 to 212 v 273

South East UP 40 to 164 v 404 - big wk to wk drop

South West UP 23 to 89 v 122







MIDLANDS

East up 7 to 153 v 190

West UP 54 to 150 v 166




NORTH

North East down 32 to 72 v 77


Yorkshire down 4 to 239 v 319 (Down and now over 200 behind NW and down wk to wk)




NORTH WEST UP 51 to 432 v 410. -Highest region and almost double the second now but only marginally up on last week.


GREATER MANCHESTER

UP 37 day to day to 288 - week to week up 84. Well over the NW week to week numbers.
 
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