Coronavirus (2021) thread

[grunge]

COPD is on the list , but it states severe COPD

people with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)

maybe thats it then. I guess it depends on that "severe" definition. she's doesn't have to have an oxygen supply or anything like that. has emergency nebulizer's incase of any issues and regular check ups and rehab sessions etc.

It was enough to rip a hole in her lung just by standing up that put her in hospital for 6 weeks tho :/

I'll make sure she asks next time she speaks to someone about it.

 

[Uwe`s Grandad]

maybe thats it then. I guess it depends on that "severe" definition. she's doesn't have to have an oxygen supply or anything like that. has emergency nebulizer's incase of any issues and regular check ups and rehab sessions etc.

It was enough to rip a hole in her lung just by standing up that put her in hospital for 6 weeks tho :/

I'll make sure she asks next time she speaks to someone about it.

Sounds very severe to me mate.

 

[BlindEyeSeesAll]

Was trying to work out why I felt really leaden, more ‘resistance to gravitythan usual but at the same time not feeling particularly breathless,

I’m sure it’s been mentioned more than a few times on here already:

https://casereports.bmj.com/content/13/9/e237207

dosing up on ibuprofen & paracetamol to alleviate the throat infection which seems like is dominating the illness rather than anything else.

Try not to cough as it’s so painful but it’s anything but persistent.

Possibly a combination of experiencing this and the effects of it on ones well-being (as is the case of all illnesses) but I’m getting even more riled by the anti vaxxers/anti-maskers/plandemics.
I’m having to take myself out of family chat groups as I struggle to hold back.
There’s literally no way of getting through to them.
Amazed at the way a proportion of this country have been radicalised by some weird cult movement in the USA.

I know mate, been dealing with one at work this week. This individual (early 20's) has been getting on my nerves for most of the year tbh , but this week started spouting off all the anti-vaxx stuff in front of a group of people. She didn't like it when I questioned her in front of the captive audience - saw her arse big time the fucking halfwit.

Hope you start feelng better soon mate.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data

64 deaths

1707 cases at 8.3% positive

526 Greater Glasgow, 242 Lanarkshire, 205 Grampian, 177 Lothian

1829 in hospital - up 35 in day

ventilator icu 142 - up 8 in day

Nicola Sturgeon adds R number may be as high as 1.4 in Scotland now.

 

[Healdplace]

Vaccinations as of last night:

SCOTLAND


Total 208, 207


This total I have now clarified is JUST the ones who have had a first dose. That is 16, 242 yesterday. About the same as the day before.

There were likely about 3000 second doses too.


WALES

11, 615 in total yesterday

13 second doses and 11, 602 first doses.


Total 112, 973

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data

Weekly Pop number is now below 400 at 390. Being falling since they have started giving it from around 500 post Christmas.

1644 cases v 1718 last week

1644 from 15, 511 tests = 10.6% positive. This has been falling too.

54 deaths v 63 last week


VACCINATIONs YESTERDAY ARE IN ONE POST ABOVE WITH SCOTLAND

 

[kaz7]

New NHS data shows 2,371,407 doses have been given in total across the country - that includes 1,997,304 first doses and 374,103 second doses - in the week leading up to 10 January.

Most vaccines have been delivered in the Midlands (447,329), followed by 433,045 in the North East and Yorkshire and 411,257 in the South East.

A total of 237,524 had been administered in London.

COVID-19: Midlands hands out most COVID jabs as North East and Yorkshire leads total coverage - here's how England's regions compare

London mayor Sadiq Khan claims the capital - which has the lowest vaccination rate - is not getting its fair share of doses.

news.sky.com

 

[blue b4 the moon]

New NHS data shows 2,371,407 doses have been given in total across the country - that includes 1,997,304 first doses and 374,103 second doses - in the week leading up to 10 January.

Most vaccines have been delivered in the Midlands (447,329), followed by 433,045 in the North East and Yorkshire and 411,257 in the South East.

A total of 237,524 had been administered in London.

COVID-19: Midlands hands out most COVID jabs as North East and Yorkshire leads total coverage - here's how England's regions compare

London mayor Sadiq Khan claims the capital - which has the lowest vaccination rate - is not getting its fair share of doses.

news.sky.com

Has Khan got Scouse blood in him?

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

London has a lower average population age than other English regions.

Not sure if that explains all the difference in vaccination rates or not, but that's where I'd start to look

 

[Healdplace]

London are complaining about the low numbers they are getting and want MORE vaccine.

These are the numbers given so far per region on a POP score basis - as in measured v 100,000 population.

As you see London ARE low but are told this is due to a younger age demographic. Given current priorities.

REGIONS in order of number of doses per 100K

North East and Yorkshire - 4,309

South West - 4,175

South East - 3,921

North West - 3,775

Midlands - 3,656

East of England - 2,853

London - 2,321


I find it VERY odd that the region by far with the least cases right now and all through this vaccination programme is getting the most. Surely level of risk versus outbreaks has to be a factor too?

Yorkshire has been low seemingly because it has had the lowest levels of the new strain. You would think would be factored in too.

But possibly THE biggest factor is NHS ICU availability. But even here Yorkshire as of last night had the smallest patient and ventilated patient numbers other than the South West - a small rural region.

 

[Healdplace]

New NHS data shows 2,371,407 doses have been given in total across the country - that includes 1,997,304 first doses and 374,103 second doses - in the week leading up to 10 January.

Most vaccines have been delivered in the Midlands (447,329), followed by 433,045 in the North East and Yorkshire and 411,257 in the South East.

A total of 237,524 had been administered in London.

COVID-19: Midlands hands out most COVID jabs as North East and Yorkshire leads total coverage - here's how England's regions compare

London mayor Sadiq Khan claims the capital - which has the lowest vaccination rate - is not getting its fair share of doses.

news.sky.com

The good news is that it is almost a million more now Kaz in the last few days.

See updates earlier.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Once they have vaccinated everyone they can there will still be just under 20% of the population unvaccinated - everyone 16 and under.

I'm sure the vaccine has yet to be even tested in kids under the age of 13?

A large swathe of the populous may remain major spreaders for a good while to come yet?

I have read a study from Texas today that people who have had Covid can essentially consider themselves having the same levels of immunity as people now being vaccinated, certainly for between five and ten months.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

 

[twosips]

Oh fuck off. The never-ending cycle of bleakness continues.

 

[Healdplace]

And sadly we will only act once it is too late to stop that new variant arriving here with open arms.

We will probably give it a helping hand to spread too then blame it for why we are in big trouble.

If only we were an island nation and could actually do something about importation of diseases when urgently necessary.....

But I think the Oxford Dictionary must have deleted the words urgent and necessary from the UK edition last year.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

London are complaining about the low numbers they are getting and want MORE vaccine.

These are the numbers given so far per region on a POP score basis - as in measured v 100,000 population.

As you see London ARE low but are told this is due to a younger age demographic. Given current priorities.

REGIONS in order of number of doses per 100K

North East and Yorkshire - 4,309

South West - 4,175

South East - 3,921

North West - 3,775

Midlands - 3,656

East of England - 2,853

London - 2,321


I find it VERY odd that the region by far with the least cases right now and all through this vaccination programme is getting the most. Surely level of risk versus outbreaks has to be a factor too?

Yorkshire has been low seemingly because it has had the lowest levels of the new strain. You would think would be factored in too.

But possibly THE biggest factor is NHS ICU availability. But even here Yorkshire as of last night had the smallest patient and ventilated patient numbers other than the South West - a small rural region.

They probably have more capacity to give out the jabs at the moment. Plus. there isn’t a super vaccination centre in Yorkshire. It might be more efficient at the moment to vaccinate more people through GP practices until the bigger vaccination centres run very smoothly.

I might be wrong and it might be the Yorkshire attitude of not letting anything go waste so they won’t be tipping “spare” vaccine down the drain.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Would really caution against getting too wound up over variants.

Firstly, there are thousands of them.

Secondly, strong scientific consensus that very unlikely to completely bypass vaccine efficacy.

Thirdly, COVID mutates slower than flu, which we control with a new vaccine each year.

Fourthly, the vaccine technologies used make responding to new variants easier than historic technologies used.

The precautionary response against the so-called Brazil one is perfectly sensible, although in huge contrast to our reactive response in everything else!

 

[Healdplace]

A woman who survived the 1919 pandemic as a baby has just had her Covid jab at 101.

She was rescued at just a few weeks old from beside her mother who had contracted the Spanish Flu virus.

 

[shemnel]

my wife occasionally works in hospitals (certainly not regularly) and she has just received a vaccine appointment for next week and for early March. 6 weeks apart.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Would really caution against getting too wound up over variants.

Firstly, there are thousands of them.

Secondly, strong scientific consensus that very unlikely to completely bypass vaccine efficacy.

Thirdly, COVID mutates slower than flu, which we control with a new vaccine each year.

Fourthly, the vaccine technologies used make responding to new variants easier than historic technologies used.

The precautionary response against the so-called Brazil one is perfectly sensible, although in huge contrast to our reactive response in everything else!

Thank you. But for those (like me) who understand so little about infectious disease and vaccine then these sort of quotes from respected people in such fields are on the scary side. On the one hand, I'd love to be hopeful that we've got vaccines to hand and very soon we could be on our way out of this, but for now I'm always brought back with a bump with the thought that some new strain such as this will inevitably end up on our shores and we find ourselves in a hole again. I get that they don't render vaccines useless (yet!!), and I get that they can be adapted, but it creates much more uncertainty and thoughts of this potentially dragging out for much longer just at a time when we could have been finding our path out of it.

I know that mutations are slowly happening all the time, but coincidental that I only began hearing about them once the first vaccines started becoming approved.