Coronavirus (2021) thread

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More authoritarian madness, that surely can’t be legal? They’ve done this after one positive test as well.

“A group of students in Preston halls have reportedly been banned from leaving or entering the building after someone tested positive for Covid.

According to a parent of one of the students living in Jubilee Court, Fylde Road; the residents have been told they cannot go in or out of the building in the next 10 days and their key fobs have been deactivated.”

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/preston-uni-students-locked-in-20736863
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
My contact at a NHS trust has said hospitalisation s in their area have been younger people for short stays in the past month.
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The heat maps on the Gov UK site show it is younger people catching it. They are very consistent. If you look at Bolton all the cases are under 40 and start high at primary school age. All the over 60s are in very light colours and low numbers.

The data I post regularly on the weekly cases from N Ireland by age show the same - earlier today 75% under 40 and 6% over 60.

Pretty obviously if so few over 60 are catching it very few will be entering hospital.

I did some rough numbers on the past 2 months looking at cases in the NW and Bolton week by week and the deaths.

The NW cases wk to wk (showing the big recent rise) go

2701 - 2287 - 1785 - 1649 - 1595 - 2112 - 2849 - 3819 - 6238 - 10, 061

Bolton cases

178 - 127 - 148 - 132 - 237 - 465 - 925 - 1296 - 1088 - 992

The NW deaths

24 - 20 - 18 - 8 - 6 - 13 - 7 - 13 - 11 - 9

Bolton deaths

8 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2

There would be a lag from cases to deaths but there is nothing serious going on here s o far.

The numbers now - though rising fast in NW but flatteing and falling in Bolton - are lower than they were 2 months ago as cases were then falling from their winter peak in late January.
 
Healdplace said:
The heat maps on the Gov UK site show it is younger people catching it. They are very consistent. If you look at Bolton all the cases are under 40 and start high at primary school age. All the over 60s are in very light colours and low numbers.

The data I post regularly on the weekly cases from N Ireland by age show the same - earlier today 75% under 40 and 6% over 60.

Pretty obviously if so few over 60 are catching it very few will be entering hospital.

I did some rough numbers on the past 2 months looking at cases in the NW and Bolton week by week and the deaths.

The NW cases wk to wk (showing the big recent rise) go

2701 - 2287 - 1785 - 1649 - 1595 - 2112 - 2849 - 3819 - 6238 - 10, 061

Bolton cases

178 - 127 - 148 - 132 - 237 - 465 - 925 - 1296 - 1088 - 992

The NW deaths

24 - 20 - 18 - 8 - 6 - 13 - 7 - 13 - 11 - 9

Bolton deaths

8 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2

There would be a lag from cases to deaths but there is nothing serious going on here s o far.

The numbers now - though rising fast in NW but flatteing and falling in Bolton - are lower than they were 2 months ago as cases were then falling from their winter peak in late January.
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As I said yesterday, the figures are looking promising for a June 21st reopening, but it hadn’t been sanctioned yet as they were waiting 10 days or so to analyse the Bolton hospitalisation figures post their peak.

Obviously now other areas are peaking/post peaking, they can cross reference those figures against the Bolton ones and if they correlate and don’t cause major issues in the NHS, we will be good to go.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
or much more likely just old frail people who unfortunately have been double jabbed but given their age have weak systems and bodies and are cared for in hospitals or care homes where the virus is much more prevalent And easy to catch.

even if you catch it and it results in mild illness, mild illness can be serious if old and frail and/ or underlying health condition so will need hospital treatment.

but yeah lets go with your bell end theory sounds more plausible.
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given that its spreading fast among younger people and not the elderly and frail .............
 
bluethrunthru said:
I am on about the number of cases in the double vaxxed cohorts and am hearing and seeing people not distancing not wearing masks and when challenged their response is "I'm double vaxxed mate - I can't catch it" which is incorrect and does not address the danger they still pose to others.
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So on a daily basis you are hearing and seeing people say that? I dont believe you.

so is it these people that you keep seeing or more likely the elderly and vulnerable ?
 
marcus said:
So on a daily basis you are hearing and seeing people say that? I dont believe you.

so is it these people that you keep seeing or more likely the elderly and vulnerable ?
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You see them on vox pops on TV news - I have seen them saying it around the town where I live - its said on Twitter - some people think its an antidote - they also mostly believe in "Freedom Day" as a concept. Whether restrictions are lifted or not on the 21st I think they will find the 22nd onwards pretty disappointing - Lockdown will be recommended at the end of September and Johnson will leap into action by November.......
 
bluethrunthru said:
I am on about the number of cases in the double vaxxed cohorts and am hearing and seeing people not distancing not wearing masks and when challenged their response is "I'm double vaxxed mate - I can't catch it" which is incorrect and does not address the danger they still pose to others.
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I think it’s fair for those lucky enough to be double jabbed to feel a level of comfort and safety in so being.

I have been double jabbed and it does give me greater confidence. Isn’t that the point Of it?

yes, I can still get it but hopefully if what they claim it should keep me out of hospital and others being jabbed or not can assess their own protection around others.

I don’t think calling people bell ends for trying to get back to a normalish life when double jabbed and feeling safer and socialising again is really a fair comment.

that’s the point of the vaccine programme.
 
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