Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Done two lateral flows this afternoon and both positive. Started feeling a bit ropey last night with a tight chest. Got a PCR test booked for 6:30 but looks like 10 days of isolation for me.
 
174 all settings deaths

So just 4 up on last Tuesday and did NOT go higher than that 175 in March.

Remarkably cases are DOWN on yesterday even with the big 3 nations numbers.

30, 838

1076 fewer

But up from 26, 852 last week

England 23, 474 - 684 fewer than yesterday - v 22, 712 last Tuesday.


56K more pillar 1 & 2 tests today than yesterday.
 
It was well complicated but something to do with the protein spikes, seemed they are to far advanced than other corona viruses . I'm sure you can still see it on channel 4 catch up. It was on on sunday.

Will take a look, sounds like they were trying to make things sound bad tho as there are 4 other Corona viruses freely spreading between humans that are just classed in the common cold family.
 
England is doing very well still versus the other nations.

Not sure why.

But as by far the biggest contributor to the UK total the longer this lasts the better.
 
Will take a look, sounds like they were trying to make things sound bad tho as there are 4 other Corona viruses freely spreading between humans that are just classed in the common cold family.
It's an interestimg watch, whether you believe or not (I'm undecided) there are some worrying things on there regards genetically modifying viruses, bloody scary.
 
I guess there are two options, really.

1. Let it rip and accept the consequences, regardless of what they are.

2. Decide how bad we are prepared to let it get and impose restrictions to limit consequences to whatever that is.

It's looking pretty clear the potential is there to get quite bad quite quickly. Scotland and now Wales seem to be doubling almost weekly. Hopefully that will slow, but who knows.

If we accept that we don't care about cases per se, long covid notwithstanding. we're two doublings from the daily hospitalisation peak in January, and 3-4 from the corresponding deaths peak. It could happen quite quickly, but equally it might burn out.

Do we want to go there? If yes, how much higher again?

At the moment, policy seems to be to hang in and hope it doesn't get out of control without any clear idea of what out of control is or what we are prepared to do to stop it.
As always there seems to be lack of communication strategy from the Government. For me the news last week that at least 50 per cent of fully vaccinated people will get symptomatic Covid and, if they they do, they will transmit is as much as unvaccinated Covid carriers has changed the game.
The vaccine passport concept must be dead. It won't work if 50 per cent of passport-holders can still transmit infection.
The current tactic of letting lots of healthy young people get infected to develop natural immunity sounds reasonable but it increases the chance of new variants (perhaps worse then Delta)
I think the public need to be told what is going on and what our Government is doing to tackle this going forward.
 
As always there seems to be lack of communication strategy from the Government. For me the news last week that at least 50 per cent of fully vaccinated people will get symptomatic Covid and, if they they do, they will transmit is as much as unvaccinated Covid carriers has changed the game.
The vaccine passport concept must be dead. It won't work if 50 per cent of passport-holders can still transmit infection.
The current tactic of letting lots of healthy young people get infected to develop natural immunity sounds reasonable but it increases the chance of new variants (perhaps worse then Delta)
I think the public need to be told what is going on and what our Government is doing to tackle this going forward.

Same with vaccinating kids, if it barely stops them catching and passing it on, what's the point?
 
England is doing very well still versus the other nations.

Not sure why.

But as by far the biggest contributor to the UK total the longer this lasts the better.
We opened up sooner didn’t we? Maybe that’s why.
I was just about to write the same, we have been open for five weeks now whereas both Scotland and Wales didn't open till earlier this month.
 
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