Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I think this thread is just mirroring the necessary process the nation is going through - indeed the world.

From being scared of an unknown virus decimating the planet, to unexpectedly fast and strong victory via the vaccines bringing a kind of opening up euphoria, to the situation now. The third phase and hopefully the end game.

Here we have to balance the still obvious and vital life saving powers of the vaccines that have turned a disaster into a manageable health problem.

Against the realisation we have gained over 18 months studying Covid that until it is controlled everywhere out there - which we have done far too little to expedite - Covid will always be a threat via potential mutations that - coupled with the global spread - mean herd immunity is not happening,

That for many was the light at the end of the tunnel we were inching towards and now it has receded into the distance it has created a confidence knock.

What is needed now is a strategy to re educate the nation on how to live successfully with Covid as it will definitely not vanish in the next 18 months. Especially if we do not get our act together on tackling the global problem.

The over emphasis on variants from Kent last Winter to Delta this Summer has spooked people. But the reality is these are random mutations and only thrive if they spread. So infectivity not mortality is the winner for these competing variants. Which in of itsef is not a problem if the vaccines are still effective - and can be tweaked to be more so.

I am very frustrated by the way we have been lectured and told how to lock down and keep ourselves out of things but we have opened up and our leaders went on holiday. And we were left to do our thing and fend for ourselves,

Where is the guidance? The clear expounding of the plan. We appear to be coasting and hoping for the best whilst preparing for the worst

No wonder some are flapping.

Learning how to adjust to normal life WITH Covid as opposed to the presumption of beating Covid and living free again is a big psychological ask of society,

We need far more out there taking responsibility for getting that message across about how to move forward as right now too many are flapping based on scare stories dotted around the media or flickers of hope they might promote,

This is a key moment for the country and we are being left to fend for ourselves.

Some are not managing that too well and we NEED a better effort from our leaders to revive the hope plenty seem to have lost.

The current situation is precarious but NOT dire. Hospital patients in England FELL yesterday. Not a peep about that in the media Just a story with 2 day old numbers stressing the number as if it is high.

This is the time the media and politicians should be working together to steer the UK into a new relationship with Covid.

They are sadly letting us all down badly.
 
I think this thread is just mirroring the necessary process the nation is going through - indeed the world.

From being scared of an unknown virus decimating the planet, to unexpectedly fast and strong victory via the vaccines bringing a kind of opening up euphoria, to the situation now. The third phase and hopefully the end game.

Here we have to balance the still obvious and vital life saving powers of the vaccines that have turned a disaster into a manageable health problem.

Against the realisation we have gained over 18 months studying Covid that until it is controlled everywhere out there - which we have done far too little to expedite - Covid will always be a threat via potential mutations that - coupled with the global spread - mean herd immunity is not happening,

That for many was the light at the end of the tunnel we were inching towards and now it has receded into the distance it has created a confidence knock.

What is needed now is a strategy to re educate the nation on how to live successfully with Covid as it will definitely not vanish in the next 18 months. Especially if we do not get our act together on tackling the global problem.

The over emphasis on variants from Kent last Winter to Delta this Summer has spooked people. But the reality is these are random mutations and only thrive if they spread. So infectivity not mortality is the winner for these competing variants. Which in of itsef is not a problem if the vaccines are still effective - and can be tweaked to be more so.

I am very frustrated by the way we have been lectured and told how to lock down and keep ourselves out of things but we have opened up and our leaders went on holiday. And we were left to do our thing and fend for ourselves,

Where is the guidance? The clear expounding of the plan. We appear to be coasting and hoping for the best whilst preparing for the worst

No wonder some are flapping.

Learning how to adjust to normal life WITH Covid as opposed to the presumption of beating Covid and living free again is a big psychological ask of society,

We need far more out there taking responsibility for getting that message across about how to move forward as right now too many are flapping based on scare stories dotted around the media or flickers of hope they might promote,

This is a key moment for the country and we are being left to fend for ourselves.

Some are not managing that too well and we NEED a better effort from our leaders to revive the hope plenty seem to have lost.

The current situation is precarious but NOT dire. Hospital patients in England FELL yesterday. Not a peep about that in the media Just a story with 2 day old numbers stressing the number as if it is high.

This is the time the media and politicians should be working together to steer the UK into a new relationship with Covid.

They are sadly letting us all down badly.
With everything fully opened up..im really concerned about the Delta variant going into winter..uncharted territory
 
WALES DATA

4 deaths - was 4 last week

1705 cases - was 1373 last week

13.8% positivity - was 18.2% last week

205 patients (yesterday) - was 162 last week

28 ventilated (yesterday) - was 26 last week
 
Cases in Wales on Wednesday over past weeks as Delta arrived and spread:-

FROM 26 MAY TO TODAY

28 - 83 - 223 - 141 - 213 - 513 - 663 - 1135 - 941 - 588 - 608 - (About 900*) - 1373 - 1705 TODAY


* Glitch in the data and 1800 reported the next day for 2 days.
 
With everything fully opened up..im really concerned about the Delta variant going into winter..uncharted territory
Which was I think why we allowed as many to catch it in the Summer when the stress on the NHS was least.

The bulk of these high cases were under 30. Still are the highest group by far though numbers are rising as cases rise outside those ages. Many not vaccinated.

Catching it with minimal risk to younger fitter people (though as the daily figures show NOT zero risk as people under 30 died almost every day in England in small numbers) to build some immunity for the winter looks to be the plan.

Not expressed openly for obvious reasons. But logically the only way for the reluctant to be vaccinated - alongside offering those who want it to be jabbed.
 
why are they calling it a booster jab and not a 3rd vaccine jab ?


Its purpose is to boost the immunity you still have from the two jabs.

And it possibly also covers the likelihood of it NOT being the same type of vaccine as the first two jabs you had.

Plus it will be targeted at most vulnerable groups almost certainly not a widescale for all vaccination program. So they might want that more apparent for those not offered it. By making clear it is a targeted booster for those who had the jab as far back as last Winter.

I was nowhere near the front of the queue and even I had my second one over 4 months ago, Some were doubled jabbed coming up for 8 months ago soon.

A lot of residual immunity remains but those being the most vulnerable need a top up. It is a different straegy than past vaccination orogrammes and they mght just want that to be clear.
 
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