Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gabriel]

Not according to the gov tracker. Schools returned on the 16th in Scotland.

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Schools started to return from the 16th. Different regions started on different days. Children in Edinburgh, for example, only went back on the 18th. Ayrshire and I noted how cases were rising in young people in general before the schools had opened.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

6835 cases in Scotland
Was 3613 last week

14.5% positive
Was 10.6% last week

Hospitals up 53 overnight.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Schools started to return from the 16th. Different regions started on different days. Children in Edinburgh, for example, only went back on the 18th. Ayrshire and I noted how cases were rising in young people in general before the schools had opened.

This. My areas schools only went back Thursday of last week. Cases were rocketing locally before then.

Seems obvious that it's much more to do with general reopening. Nightclubs, concerts, football, events and all the rest of it. Schools will likely be contributing now or starting to soon, but they were *NOT* the initial problem here, that is certain.

 

[Gabriel]

6835 cases in Scotland
Was 3613 last week

14.5% positive
Was 10.6% last week

Hospitals up 53 overnight.

That’s nearly 2,000 more cases on yesterday, no? Expect that’s the school impact coming through now; it would be interesting to see cases by local authority in relation to when schools went back.

 

[Healdplace]

That Scottish data is now getting pretty concerning as it is translating quickly into rising hospital numbers.

Because of the lag cases to hospital - this is just the start of that and the bleeding into older relatives from those catching this and brushing it off will see deaths rise too. Though the vaccines will hopefully still take the edge off that by a lot.

But if anything like this happens in England we are talking huge numbers. And no longer confident that it would be different here. We are going to exceed 10K in hospital i England now all but certainly and probably 250 deaths a day.

Could be a lot worse but the hospital numbers matter far more than 6000 cases do.

Scotland was first into Delta in the Spring - ahead of the North West. But it seems not to have stopped this rinse and repeat within weeks.

The vaccination of children will probably now happen but as with far too many things in this pandemic a few weeks too late.

 

[Saddleworth2]

That Scottish data is now getting pretty concerning as it is translating quickly into rising hospital numbers.

If anything like this happens in England we are talking huge numbers. And no longer confident that it would be different here.

Scotland was first into Delta in the Spring - ahead of the North West. But it seems not to have stopped this rinse and repeat within weeks.

The vaccination of children will probably now happen but as with far too many things in this pandemic a few weeks too late.

Grandaughter tested positive on a LFT test this morning. Other than vaccinating everyone, Im not sure how we stop this.

 

[Healdplace]

The one thing Scotland proves is letting people catch it PLUS vaccinating all is never going to create herd immunity with Covid.

It can mitigate but not eliminate continuing outbreaks seemingly as far as we can see.

The scientific focus will be less on vaccines and more on treatments once you do catch it. Because bar living in a cave it looks unlikely anyone is going to escape testing positive at least once. And still being vulnerable to re-catching it a few weeks later.

This is not it appears a defeatable virus. Living with it and minimising impact is the future. That will be hard for some people to hear. Especially the most vulnerable.

 

[Gabriel]

Up to the 22nd, the Dutch had given out 561,747 first shots and 268,403 second shots to the 12-17 age group.

 

[Healdplace]

WALES DATA

5 deaths - was 4 last week

1791 cases - was 1728 last week

8.9% positivity - was 9.0% last week

Yesterday there were 217 in hospital (up 25 in the week)

And 33 ventilated icu (up 2 on last week)

 

[Healdplace]

We are going to have another record 3 nation total today looks like. Could top 10,000.

Without England.