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Not according to the gov tracker. Schools returned on the 16th in Scotland.

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Schools started to return from the 16th. Different regions started on different days. Children in Edinburgh, for example, only went back on the 18th. Ayrshire and I noted how cases were rising in young people in general before the schools had opened.
 
Schools started to return from the 16th. Different regions started on different days. Children in Edinburgh, for example, only went back on the 18th. Ayrshire and I noted how cases were rising in young people in general before the schools had opened.

This. My areas schools only went back Thursday of last week. Cases were rocketing locally before then.

Seems obvious that it's much more to do with general reopening. Nightclubs, concerts, football, events and all the rest of it. Schools will likely be contributing now or starting to soon, but they were *NOT* the initial problem here, that is certain.
 
6835 cases in Scotland
Was 3613 last week

14.5% positive
Was 10.6% last week

Hospitals up 53 overnight.
That’s nearly 2,000 more cases on yesterday, no? Expect that’s the school impact coming through now; it would be interesting to see cases by local authority in relation to when schools went back.
 
That Scottish data is now getting pretty concerning as it is translating quickly into rising hospital numbers.

Because of the lag cases to hospital - this is just the start of that and the bleeding into older relatives from those catching this and brushing it off will see deaths rise too. Though the vaccines will hopefully still take the edge off that by a lot.

But if anything like this happens in England we are talking huge numbers. And no longer confident that it would be different here. We are going to exceed 10K in hospital i England now all but certainly and probably 250 deaths a day.

Could be a lot worse but the hospital numbers matter far more than 6000 cases do.

Scotland was first into Delta in the Spring - ahead of the North West. But it seems not to have stopped this rinse and repeat within weeks.

The vaccination of children will probably now happen but as with far too many things in this pandemic a few weeks too late.
 
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That Scottish data is now getting pretty concerning as it is translating quickly into rising hospital numbers.

If anything like this happens in England we are talking huge numbers. And no longer confident that it would be different here.

Scotland was first into Delta in the Spring - ahead of the North West. But it seems not to have stopped this rinse and repeat within weeks.

The vaccination of children will probably now happen but as with far too many things in this pandemic a few weeks too late.
Grandaughter tested positive on a LFT test this morning. Other than vaccinating everyone, Im not sure how we stop this.
 
The one thing Scotland proves is letting people catch it PLUS vaccinating all is never going to create herd immunity with Covid.

It can mitigate but not eliminate continuing outbreaks seemingly as far as we can see.

The scientific focus will be less on vaccines and more on treatments once you do catch it. Because bar living in a cave it looks unlikely anyone is going to escape testing positive at least once. And still being vulnerable to re-catching it a few weeks later.

This is not it appears a defeatable virus. Living with it and minimising impact is the future. That will be hard for some people to hear. Especially the most vulnerable.
 
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WALES DATA

5 deaths - was 4 last week

1791 cases - was 1728 last week

8.9% positivity - was 9.0% last week

Yesterday there were 217 in hospital (up 25 in the week)

And 33 ventilated icu (up 2 on last week)
 
Grandaughter tested positive on a LFT test this morning. Other than vaccinating everyone, Im not sure how we stop this.

Hope she's doing ok, and I completely agree with you.

The mention of a 'circuit breaker' was depressing as it just got me thinking that as soon as cases reduce, restrictions will ease and then skyrocket again. On/off, on/off, on/off, on/off. The situation is not good, and I'm not sure exactly what we *should* do, but that just can't be it or there's no end game at all.
 
Hope she's doing ok, and I completely agree with you.

The mention of a 'circuit breaker' was depressing as it just got me thinking that as soon as cases reduce, restrictions will ease and then skyrocket again. On/off, on/off, on/off, on/off. The situation is not good, and I'm not sure exactly what we *should* do, but that just can't be it or there's no end game at all.
She is the second to have it. Bit of a temp but other than that ok thanks.
She visited yesterday so wife and I will need tested tomorrow.
Daughter had a mild heart attack earlier this week and just out of hospital yesterday.
Its not been the best week :-(
 
She is the second to have it. Bit of a temp but other than that ok thanks.
She visited yesterday so wife and I will need tested tomorrow.
Daughter had a mild heart attack earlier this week and just out of hospital yesterday.
Its not been the best week :-(

Jees. Sorry to hear that. Hope things turn around quickly for you and yours mate. All the best with your test.
 
She is the second to have it. Bit of a temp but other than that ok thanks.
She visited yesterday so wife and I will need tested tomorrow.
Daughter had a mild heart attack earlier this week and just out of hospital yesterday.
Its not been the best week :-(
Difficult week for you and yours. Pray they quickly return to good health.
 
She is the second to have it. Bit of a temp but other than that ok thanks.
She visited yesterday so wife and I will need tested tomorrow.
Daughter had a mild heart attack earlier this week and just out of hospital yesterday.
Its not been the best week :-(
Hope everything is OK mate. Sorry to hear you're having it rough.
 
It was me! Thank you. TBF that is brand new research and wasn't out at the time.

It's also retrospective, so can be skewed significantly (eg do people who've had the virus tend to get tested less), but nevertheless very interesting.

I had seen this before just didn’t know where so although this is new, the theory definitely isn’t.
 
NORTHERN IRELAND DATA

ANOTHER SLIGHT RAY OF HOPE

5 deaths - was 4 last week

1875 cases - was 2397 last week

7.4% positivity - was 10.4% last week

11, 664 seven day cases total - was 11, 642 yesterday

129 Care Home Outbreaks - up 3 on yesterday - was 134 last week

383 patients - up 7 on yesterday - was 388 last week

27 ventilated - up 1 on yesterday - was 33 last week


Weekly cases by age range:

0 - 19 (3498), 20 - 39 (3745) 40 - 59 (2952) 60 - 79 (1236) 80 PLUS (232)

As you see the ages of those driving this wave are obvious and have been consistently. Hence so far only modest increases in hospital numbers and deaths.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS

80 with 22 from the North West.

Last week 76 with 16 NW, wk before 61 with 10 NW.

Good news:- Numbers only inching up week to week.

Bad news: - North West is back as highest contributor today.



By region:-

East 7, London 9, Midlands 14, NE & Yorkshire 12, North West 22, South East 10, South West 6


NW trusts:- Manchester 8, St Helens 4, Salford 3, Pennine Acute 2, Chester 2, & 1 each in Bolton, Liverpool & Wigan.

There was some backdating cases in NW today so may have been an end of month audit.


By age: - 20 - 39 (3), 40 - 59 (7), 60 - 79 (34), 80 PLUS (36)

AUG 20 now has 80 deaths and is another new high for a single date (third this week)

AUG 22 is at 78 after 5 days - highest number on five days since 11 March.

AUG 24 is also coming up on 74 after just 3 days.
 
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