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Absolutely pissed off with these idiots. Me and Mrs Flyer are both at high risk because of health issues and these twats continue to ignore the law and common sense. Hope they all get it, the bastards.

But they'll carry on because there is no fitting deterrent. If we can put up the emergency hospitals in a few days, we should have built a few temporary jails made from mesh fencing, get some army lads to work with the police to round these idiots up and not release them until they've paid a £500 fee. If you don't pay, you don't get out.

And as for the organizers who are effectively saying 'we know we're increasing the chance of the virus spreading and people dying, but hey there's a few quid to be made' the fuckers should be locked up for 12 months as well as the £10,000 fine
My mate is a taxi driver for Swift's in Stalybridge, he worked until 3am NYE, his description of his customers, "young scrotes". Not one of them wearing a mask and most of them pissed and probably coked up. No intervention by the plod, he saw a few police cars but wasn't stopped. He lives alone and had Covid in October but how many cab drivers without immunity will be passing the virus on in the next couple of weeks? It's only one channel of infection but it's frightening that it was allowed to happen. There's no way I would have done his job on NYE but he said he needs the money and if he didn't do it others would.

The policing of this virus has been shocking, I'm totally with you on the action that needs to be taken.
 
Teaching unions have instructed legal council to explore likelihood of successful action if they sue the government. How has it come to this? And no, this isn’t anything anyone can heap on the teachers or unions. 100% government fuck up.

A message sent out to all NAHT members. NAHT and ASCL are suing the Government- extraordinary (and welcome)!


An important update regarding the start of term

Since my last email to you on Wednesday, the team at NAHT has been working intensively to explore all the options that could be available to us collectively, and to you as individuals.

Today I wanted to provide you with an update on that work.

Throughout the deliberations we have had to consider carefully which actions are most likely to have the desired impact, and which are feasible given the time constraints we face together with a desire to maintain the confidence of the communities you support.

We have also had to ensure that our members would be fully protected with regard to the action we take on their behalf, or that they themselves might take according to their circumstances.

NAHT’s policy position is clear: We want to see children in school. It is the best place for their education and their wider well-being. We understand that the government has been seeking to strike a balance between minimising the risk of transfer of COVID-19 and providing face-to-face education for all children.

However, the latest data shows that in large parts of the country, control of infection has been lost and the lack of understanding regarding the new strain has now created intolerable risk to many school communities.

We are calling upon government to remove people in schools from the physical harm caused by the current progress of the disease and to work with the profession and Public Health England to establish new protocols and interventions to make schools covid-secure. More about this below.

Our response - legal action

On Wednesday, I instructed Queen’s Council to examine the government’s announcement and outline the legal options available to us.

As a result, on Thursday afternoon, we commenced preliminary steps in legal proceedings against the Department for Education.

This represents a significant step for us to have taken as a union, and it is not a decision we have taken lightly.

Our colleagues at the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) accepted an invitation to join us in this action.

The legal process we have instigated covers a wide range of issues from the scientific advice the government is drawing on, right through to the proposed arrangements for covid testing in schools.

We are now awaiting the government’s response. That will determine our next steps.

Once we have seen the response, we will need to rely on our appointed Queen’s Counsel and the NAHT and ASCL legal teams to determine the likelihood of success should we continue with the legal action. If at that point we need to take a different approach, we will be prepared to do so.

Alongside this we have also been putting pressure on the government to revisit its list of ‘high risk’ areas. Many of you have been in touch to point out some of the starker anomalies and inconsistencies in the list of high-risk areas and, along with others, we have been pursuing all of these. Yesterday evening we saw the government announce that all London Boroughs would now be told to follow the contingency framework. We will continue to press this issue for other parts of the country.

Section 44 - Social media speculation

We are aware that there is conversation on social media regarding the use of Section 44 of the Health and Safety at Work Act for employees to refuse to work if they consider the workplace to be unsafe.

We expect members will have several questions about this including what NAHT’s own position is on the matter, and what leaders need to do if they are informed by staff that they will not attend school. To support you with this, we will issue guidance today – you should receive a further email from us on this in due course.

Next steps and the immediate situation

I am acutely aware that we are only a matter of days away from the start of the term and, as such, many of you will have already been reviewing your risk assessments and speaking with governors, staff and parents.

We now find ourselves in a position where some of those risk assessments could suggest that it will not be safe to open the school next week. As an example, an absence of staff could well mean that schools do not have capacity to open safely for all pupils.

If, as a result of your risk assessment, you find yourself in such a position, we recommend you inform the LA or Trust immediately. Our advice team are also continuing to work with individual members and you can contact them on 0300 30 30 333.

We will be continuing to argue throughout the weekend that government needs to change its approach if we have any chance of success at keeping schools open to all pupils and not just for the most vulnerable and those of key workers.

The government’s current approach is too simplistic and is damaging education. It is time to properly respond to what professional educators need rather than how attractive a headline may read.

The government is alienating the profession, failing children and being reckless with the safety of the whole school community.

We believe that the government should take the following steps:

Move all schools to home learning for a brief and determined period for most children.

During this time, proper support to make the home learning experience as good as it can be should be provided. That includes technology and learning resources but also the flexibility for school leaders to respond to their circumstances. A centralised, prescriptive approach is too constrained.

The government should then establish a properly organised, resourced and funded mass testing regime for schools in place of the botched DIY system currently being imposed.

Work should be undertaken with school leaders and PHE to establish and agree new covid-related safety measures in schools during the temporary restriction.

Urgently review its approach to special schools, APs and Maintained Nursery Schools to protect all staff and pupils in those communities.

Immediately prioritise vaccinations in education

Then agree an orderly return

I think we can all see that, in the short term at least, a difficult and rocky road lies ahead. No other generation of school leaders has had to face the sorts of challenges you are currently dealing with. My commitment to you is that we will continue to work tirelessly to support you and to stand by you in days, weeks and months ahead. We will, of course, continue to keep you updated as to the latest developments and we have done throughout the last year.

Best wishes



Paul Whiteman
NAHT general secretary
info@naht.org.uk
 
When it finally gets round to it, the Dutch government looks as if it’s going to start vaccinating Health Care Workers first, perhaps ahead of and more so than vulnerable older people. It needs to decrease absenteeism amongst HCWs to prevent the system collapsing in the coming weeks and perhaps has realised that key workers have far more contacts and are thus more likely to spread it.
 
Teaching unions have instructed legal council to explore likelihood of successful action if they sue the government. How has it come to this? And no, this isn’t anything anyone can heap on the teachers or unions. 100% government fuck up.

A message sent out to all NAHT members. NAHT and ASCL are suing the Government- extraordinary (and welcome)!


An important update regarding the start of term

Since my last email to you on Wednesday, the team at NAHT has been working intensively to explore all the options that could be available to us collectively, and to you as individuals.

Today I wanted to provide you with an update on that work.

Throughout the deliberations we have had to consider carefully which actions are most likely to have the desired impact, and which are feasible given the time constraints we face together with a desire to maintain the confidence of the communities you support.

We have also had to ensure that our members would be fully protected with regard to the action we take on their behalf, or that they themselves might take according to their circumstances.

NAHT’s policy position is clear: We want to see children in school. It is the best place for their education and their wider well-being. We understand that the government has been seeking to strike a balance between minimising the risk of transfer of COVID-19 and providing face-to-face education for all children.

However, the latest data shows that in large parts of the country, control of infection has been lost and the lack of understanding regarding the new strain has now created intolerable risk to many school communities.

We are calling upon government to remove people in schools from the physical harm caused by the current progress of the disease and to work with the profession and Public Health England to establish new protocols and interventions to make schools covid-secure. More about this below.

Our response - legal action

On Wednesday, I instructed Queen’s Council to examine the government’s announcement and outline the legal options available to us.

As a result, on Thursday afternoon, we commenced preliminary steps in legal proceedings against the Department for Education.

This represents a significant step for us to have taken as a union, and it is not a decision we have taken lightly.

Our colleagues at the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) accepted an invitation to join us in this action.

The legal process we have instigated covers a wide range of issues from the scientific advice the government is drawing on, right through to the proposed arrangements for covid testing in schools.

We are now awaiting the government’s response. That will determine our next steps.

Once we have seen the response, we will need to rely on our appointed Queen’s Counsel and the NAHT and ASCL legal teams to determine the likelihood of success should we continue with the legal action. If at that point we need to take a different approach, we will be prepared to do so.

Alongside this we have also been putting pressure on the government to revisit its list of ‘high risk’ areas. Many of you have been in touch to point out some of the starker anomalies and inconsistencies in the list of high-risk areas and, along with others, we have been pursuing all of these. Yesterday evening we saw the government announce that all London Boroughs would now be told to follow the contingency framework. We will continue to press this issue for other parts of the country.

Section 44 - Social media speculation

We are aware that there is conversation on social media regarding the use of Section 44 of the Health and Safety at Work Act for employees to refuse to work if they consider the workplace to be unsafe.

We expect members will have several questions about this including what NAHT’s own position is on the matter, and what leaders need to do if they are informed by staff that they will not attend school. To support you with this, we will issue guidance today – you should receive a further email from us on this in due course.

Next steps and the immediate situation

I am acutely aware that we are only a matter of days away from the start of the term and, as such, many of you will have already been reviewing your risk assessments and speaking with governors, staff and parents.

We now find ourselves in a position where some of those risk assessments could suggest that it will not be safe to open the school next week. As an example, an absence of staff could well mean that schools do not have capacity to open safely for all pupils.

If, as a result of your risk assessment, you find yourself in such a position, we recommend you inform the LA or Trust immediately. Our advice team are also continuing to work with individual members and you can contact them on 0300 30 30 333.

We will be continuing to argue throughout the weekend that government needs to change its approach if we have any chance of success at keeping schools open to all pupils and not just for the most vulnerable and those of key workers.

The government’s current approach is too simplistic and is damaging education. It is time to properly respond to what professional educators need rather than how attractive a headline may read.

The government is alienating the profession, failing children and being reckless with the safety of the whole school community.

We believe that the government should take the following steps:

Move all schools to home learning for a brief and determined period for most children.

During this time, proper support to make the home learning experience as good as it can be should be provided. That includes technology and learning resources but also the flexibility for school leaders to respond to their circumstances. A centralised, prescriptive approach is too constrained.

The government should then establish a properly organised, resourced and funded mass testing regime for schools in place of the botched DIY system currently being imposed.

Work should be undertaken with school leaders and PHE to establish and agree new covid-related safety measures in schools during the temporary restriction.

Urgently review its approach to special schools, APs and Maintained Nursery Schools to protect all staff and pupils in those communities.

Immediately prioritise vaccinations in education

Then agree an orderly return

I think we can all see that, in the short term at least, a difficult and rocky road lies ahead. No other generation of school leaders has had to face the sorts of challenges you are currently dealing with. My commitment to you is that we will continue to work tirelessly to support you and to stand by you in days, weeks and months ahead. We will, of course, continue to keep you updated as to the latest developments and we have done throughout the last year.

Best wishes



Paul Whiteman
NAHT general secretary
info@naht.org.uk
I’ve not heard a peep off my teaching union for a week now, and nothing regarding the current climate since the final week of term before the break.
 
We may get lucky. I hope we do. But we are in a far more precarious position than we ought to be with firm decisive action. And a far more precarious one than too many out there seem to understand.

It all goes back imo to utterly appalling messaging throughout getting things across in ways people will accept.

It also revolves around politicians raised on money who think money solves everything. From paying mates to do things they have no expertise in doing, To thinking a £1000 fine would deter people gathering when in the real world if you want a party you just invite more people than you planned and get them all to chip in.

We need REAL deterrent to not doing these things. We cannot obviously put tanks on the streets as some nations would. But we can lock up those responsible and basically tell them they created risk and so are now a risk and so must self isolate in a cell for a couple of weeks.

If you make clear that doing the wrong thing is a big deal with real consequences it will deter many from taking the chance. If you create the impression it is just a misdemeanour and not that serious it will not.

If Boris cares about popularity as he seems to do then he is missing how popular such a move would be as the majority of the nation think we are way too lenient on rule breakers when it puts lives at risk

This country needs to get more real about the mess we are in.
 
Obviously it's all about opinions but mine is we have gotten off to a great start and from Monday things will really accelerate. From a standing start we have given 1 million people at least one dose of the difficult to roll out Pfizer vaccine in less than a month. We now have the Oxford vaccine that can be delivered more or less anywhere. Community nurses can take it to people's houses in cool bags if needed as well as it being delivered in GP surgeries, pharmacies and mass vaccination sites like the tennis centre next to the stadium.

The UK is already ahead of a similar nations in terms of vaccinations carried out and now with an easy to deliver UK produced vaccine we can motor on.
1. We don’t make the vaccine here in any useful numbers.
2. It is well documented by medical staff that we only have enough people to administer the vaccine at the current rate.
 
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