For older double jabbed people yes. I caught it in early July and it was exactly like a cold without sneezing. - I did socialise a lot though to purposefully try and catch it, baring in mind what would happen later in the year iwith waning immunity being shown up in Israel.Zoe App guy Tim Spector was on This Morning just now claiming the government are not listening to him and that Covid symptoms have now radically changed from the ones they ask you to look for. In effect making it much like a cold.
He said everyone who has cold like symptoms should get tested with both tests and self isolate until sure they are safe.
That seemed a little extreme to me. As most surely will still just have colds. And in Winter the UK would shut down if everyone with a cold stayed home.
I assumed the milder symptoms are happening not becaue of a radical change in the nature of Covid but because most now catching it are very young versus the much older ones who were catching it during earlier waves. Or rather were TESTING positive then as we were not bothering to test most of those with the milder symptoms. Who as a result had this milder version then but never knew they had because they did not get ill enough to find out.
Is he right? Has Covid changed radically in form?
He also claimed that one third of those testing positive now are double jabbed. Which seems about what you would expect given how many have been vaccinated. Indeed two thirds of a fairly small number who have not rather shows how good the vaccine is working.
Especially as not catching Covid is the lowest measure as was always expected and the protection of the vaccine against serious illness and death is much higher and far more significant. And why with 30 - 40K cases a day we have only 5727 in hospital in England and under 8000 now in the UK. Many predictions were for much worse than that by now and for numbers to be rising when these are actually falling right now and well down on this time last week.
So about 2,000,000 have officiallycaught Delta since the start July and according to Zoe it is nearly double that.ZOE APP NEWS
TODAY'S UPDATE
NOT QUITE SO GOOD NEWS TODAY. THOUGH COULD BE WORSE.
Predicted cases are
UP FROM 43, 740 TO 44, 459 - a rise of of 719 - After a fall of 465 yesterdayand 1949 the day before.
It WAS 46, 994 last Tuesday - a FALL week to week of 2535 - which is up from a weekly fall of 2408 yesterday.
Ongoing symptomatic cases also fall for the fifteenth day running. BUT the fall is significantly down
FROM 661, 763 TO 658, 507 - A fall of 3256 - after a fall of 7276 yesterday and prior falls of 10, 561, 1392, 5951,4129, 4595. 4710, 6108.
IT WAS 695, 667 last Tuesday. A weekly fall of 37, 160- UP from a week to week fall of 32K yesterday.
There is always a lag to the change in ongoing cases after a rise or fall in daily case numbers as ongoing cases persist and are not just counted on the day of first report.
Why is it a challenge. Why can't they simply start seeing them again? It's absolutely baffling that they're allowed to carry on with this behavior unchallenged.I work in the NHS and it is certainly not what it was. For the NHS the biggest challenge now is for GPs to start seeing patients again.
The problem is they have over egged the pudding every time this year. Even the 'best case' Green case looks to be wrong and Autumn has barely begunI would guess still in the same place they were then, and the only place they ever have been - in your head?
For anyone actually interested the scenario referred to is described as " highly unlikely, without the emergence of a novel variant of concern" and the scenarios in general are referred to as "neither forecasts nor predictions". The overall situation is described as " the epidemic is entering a period of uncertainty"
SAGE minutes https://assets.publishing.service.g...t_data/file/1017296/S1360_SAGE_95_minutes.pdf
SPI-M (modelling group) consensus statement
Determination to peddle such untruths about what scientists actually write in a pandemic isn't a good look.
They see it as an opportunity to get more money it would appear.Why is it a challenge. Why can't they simply start seeing them again? It's absolutely baffling that they're allowed to carry on with this behavior unchallenged.
You seem to be very selective in the parts if the reports you promote.Read the reports.
If you can't be bothered, just the most relevant quotes I provided above.
Get out of jail caveats should be represented in a much more optimistic Green case. They seemingly prefer to go for gloom and doom and to cry wolf instead.You're not even remotely interested in understanding.
You just want a cheap gotcha to confirm your prejudices.
This looks like a scattergun approach to modelling to me. They might as well admit they have no idea what's about to happen. They were completely wrong last time and I expect them to be completely wrong this time as well