Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Johnny Mars Bar]

COVID could resemble the common by next spring - expert

The country is "over the worst" and COVID could resemble the common cold by spring next year, a leading expert claims.

Professor Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University, said this is down to people's immunity to the virus being boosted by jabs and exposure.

He believes things "should be fine" once winter has passed, adding there was continued exposure to the virus even in people who are vaccinated.

Sir John told Times Radio: "If you look at the trajectory we're on, we're a lot better off than we were six months ago.

"So the pressure on the NHS is largely abated. If you look at the deaths from COVID, they tend to be very elderly people, and it's not entirely clear it was COVID that caused all those deaths.

"So I think we're over the worst of it now."

He said his view is COVID will be similar to coronaviruses which cause the common cold "by next spring".

It's "pretty important that we don't panic about where we are now", he said, as severe infections and deaths from COVID remain "very low".

Someone needs to tell our GPs, who are still hiding in their comfy home offices 18 months on while their patients die from undiagnosed illnesses at the end of a FaceTime call.

Hashtag bang your pots and pans for the NHS etc.

 

[Len Rum]

COVID could resemble the common by next spring - expert

The country is "over the worst" and COVID could resemble the common cold by spring next year, a leading expert claims.

Professor Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University, said this is down to people's immunity to the virus being boosted by jabs and exposure.

He believes things "should be fine" once winter has passed, adding there was continued exposure to the virus even in people who are vaccinated.

Sir John told Times Radio: "If you look at the trajectory we're on, we're a lot better off than we were six months ago.

"So the pressure on the NHS is largely abated. If you look at the deaths from COVID, they tend to be very elderly people, and it's not entirely clear it was COVID that caused all those deaths.

"So I think we're over the worst of it now."

He said his view is COVID will be similar to coronaviruses which cause the common cold "by next spring".

It's "pretty important that we don't panic about where we are now", he said, as severe infections and deaths from COVID remain "very low".

Encouraging and nothing wrong with being optimistic.
Last November the BBC reported him as saying that life could return to normal by spring.

 

[RobMCFC]

Someone needs to tell our GPs, who are still hiding in their comfy home offices 18 months on while their patients die from undiagnosed illnesses at the end of a FaceTime call.

Hashtag bang your pots and pans for the NHS etc.

Totally agree. I don't know what they are doing these days but it seems harder to get a face-to-ace appointment than it is to get back into England after a holiday.

 

[True_Blue69]

Encouraging and nothing wrong with being optimistic.
Last November the BBC reported him as saying that life could return to normal by spring.

Wasn’t that far off

 

[Healdplace]

182 all settings deaths

36, 710 cases - another jump up.

Up 2250 on yesterday & from 26, 911 last week - by 9799

Though that was minus Scottish data still England is now clearly rising.

England 29, 045 today - up from 27, 317 yesterday & 22, 949 last week.

Testing up 79K on yesterday but still likely to be another rise in positivity driven by England.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Seems an odd article. there are over 200 viruses that cause the Common Cold.

Common cold - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Well over 200 virus strains are implicated in causing the common cold, with rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, adenoviruses and enteroviruses being the most common.[13]"

Well yes but the most of the Coronovirus ones have gene linkage to Camels. Others come from Birds and others from Dogs.

 

[Healdplace]

GM & NW UPDATE

Sadly a pretty bad day for the region and GM.

Stockport again is the worst - where on Earth are the media on this?

Another set of records in Stockport - highest score in months, highest Pop Score today in over 2 months, even further ahead of Manchester than yesterday and beaten it now 5 or the last 7 days. Never happened before. And up week to week by the most yet fron 152 to 258 today. Will also have the highest weekly Pop Score it has ever had way up into the 400s.

Really baffled the media are not reporting this as it is now two weeks and VERY similar to how Bolton shot up in April when it took too long to find out why.

Not saying there is a Stockport variant - it probably is just schools -but we ought to be asking and finding out now as this is clearly no temoporary glitch,

NW up to 4444 today - by 363 - and sadly GM is up much of that - from 1339 to 1561 - 222 - well over par.

Week to week NW is also up very big indeed from 3368 - so 1076 - biggest weekly rise in a long time here.

GM up 492 of that which is still high but not as bad as day to day. And 106 of that icrease is in Stockport and just 15 in Manchester (stil sub 200 on 197) which shows the relative fortunes.

There were other BIG week to week rises too in GM. Wigan topped 200 on 208 - up 89 in the week, Trafford even more up 98 wk to wk to 193 and Tameside too up 81 to 185.

Whilst for now these are just numbers they are going to translate to some degree into hospital stats you have to assume. Just hopefully not many of them if these are really still all young.

But come on media - do your job - start asking why Stockport and Tameside are FAR worse and have been for more than a week than Manchester as these three border one another.

 

[grunge]

Well yes but the most of the Coronovirus ones have gene linkage to Camels. Others come from Birds and others from Dogs.

Of the Cronoavirus family yeah, thats not overly surprising I guess as Camels are in close contact with humans a lot.

If this had been MERS that picked up the asymtomatic transfer we'd really be in the shit. CFA of 37%

 

[BlueAnorak]

Of the Cronoavirus family yeah, thats not overly surprising I guess as Camels are in close contact with humans a lot.

If this had been MERS that picked up the asymtomatic transfer we'd really be in the shit. CFA of 37%

Not sure about that. Now if a third of cases were asymptomatic then maybe.

 

[andyhinch]

Someone needs to tell our GPs, who are still hiding in their comfy home offices 18 months on while their patients die from undiagnosed illnesses at the end of a FaceTime call.

Hashtag bang your pots and pans for the NHS etc.

Phoned mine today and got a face to face no problem and haven’t in the past year.