Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Probably because they’re almost useless against Delta which is airborne and not just spread via droplet.

Erm. What? Nothing has changed in terms of the size of the virus to allow this change?

got any links?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Pfizer over time. Study in the lancet

Remains effective against hospitalisation but very significant decline in effectiveness against infection:

" Effectiveness against infections declined from 88% (95% CI 86–89) during the first month after full vaccination to 47% (43–51) after 5 months."

Thats not good news. Still protection against serious illness is high.

 

[SWP's back]

Erm. What? Nothing has changed in terms of the size of the virus to allow this change?

got any links?

Millions of them:

Covid-19: What do we know about airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2?

How covid-19 spreads is one of the most debated questions of the pandemic. Chris Baraniuk explains what the evidence tells us about airborne transmission of the virus Scientists distinguish between respiratory infectious diseases classed as “airborne”—which spread by aerosols suspended in the...

www.bmj.com

Covid Is Airborne, Scientists Say. Now Authorities Think So, Too

A quiet revolution has permeated global health circles.

www.bloomberg.com

Were you unaware that covid is airborne?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Probably because they’re almost useless against Delta which is airborne and not just spread via droplet.

Wrong. Anyone would think an anti-masker had taken over your account.
Yes the virus is airborne but masks do provide 30%+ protection for the cloth ones and 50%+ for the better ones. 50-75% for protecting others from you.
But hey restrictions have been removed and everyone under 60 needs to catch it prior to vaccine effectiveness waning.

 

[Healdplace]

WALES DATA

OK day here happily

8 deaths - was 9 last week

2007 cases - was 3369 last week

10.8% positivity - wa 12.6% last week

491 patients - was 474 last week

42 ventilated - was 44 last week

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS

More good news here - deaths still falling

64 with 9 North West - last week was 87 with 8 NW & week before 68 with 13 NW.

This is the lowest number on a Wednesday for two months.

 

[SWP's back]

Wrong. Anyone would think an anti-masker had taken over your account.
Yes the virus is airborne but masks do provide 30%+ protection for the cloth ones and 50%+ for the better ones. 50-75% for protecting others from you.
But hey restrictions have been removed and everyone under 60 needs to catch it prior to vaccine effectiveness waning.

Not an anti masker at all and wear my mask every day. But they’re almost useless against an airborne virus as I say and as even your most optimistic stats agree.

They’re half-decent at protecting others but almost useless at protecting the wearer.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND 64 HOSPITAL DEATHS - FULL DETAILS

BY REGION:-

East 6, London 11, Midlands 13, NE & Yorkshire 17, North West 9, South East 4, South West 4

Most by trusts:- 6 each in County Durham & in Sunderland

North West trusts:- 2 each in St Helens & Morecambe and 1 each in Bolton, Pennine Acute (Oldham & Rochdale), Salford, Wigan & Wirral

BY AGE:-

0 - 19 (1) 40 - 59 (6), 60 - 79 (22), 80 PLUS (35)


IT NOW LOOKS ALMOST CERTAIN THE WEEKLY DEATHS WILL BE DOWN FOR THE THIRD SUCCESSIVE WEEK AS EVERY DAY IN THE FIRST SIX IS DOWN - OFTEN A LOT DOWN - ON THE SAME DAY LAST WEEK WITH JUST TOMORROW'S DATA TO COMPLETE THE WEEK

AS OF NOW 62 IS THE HIGHEST SINGLE DAY AND THE LAST DAY (OCT 2) IS AT JUST 48 WITH JUST ONE DAY TO GO.

LAST WEEK THE HIGHEST DAY WAS 92. AND IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST IN THE 80s EVERY WEEK IN THE PAST MONTH - SO THIS IS A VERY VISIBLE DOWNTURN

 

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Millions of them:

Covid-19: What do we know about airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2?

How covid-19 spreads is one of the most debated questions of the pandemic. Chris Baraniuk explains what the evidence tells us about airborne transmission of the virus Scientists distinguish between respiratory infectious diseases classed as “airborne”—which spread by aerosols suspended in the...

www.bmj.com

Covid Is Airborne, Scientists Say. Now Authorities Think So, Too

A quiet revolution has permeated global health circles.

www.bloomberg.com

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Were you unaware that covid is airborne?

Covid is droplet airborne with occasional aerosol airborne in rare occasions ( due to dry coughs creating smaller droplets occasionally ). but its always been that way. nowt to do with Delta variant.

Droplet vs airborne is all to do with the size of the virus its self which hasn't changed.

 

[SWP's back]

Covid is droplet airborne with occasional aerosol airborne in rare occasions ( due to dry coughs creating smaller droplets occasionally ). but its always been that way. nowt to do with Delta variant.

Droplet vs real airborne is all to do with the size of the virus its self which hasn't changed.

It is airborne and it’s not “rare”.

The experts initially believed that it was droplet transmission that caused all cases, now the opposite is true. Not sure why you think that’s remotely controversial.

I never said virus size had changed, it was always small enough to penetrate all but an N99 mask. But Delta is far more transmissible and requires a much smaller viral load to cause infection.

So to repeat, someone asked why so few are still wearing masks, my answer, which I stand by, is that it’s because they’re fairly useless (at protecting the wearer).