Coronavirus (2021) thread

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There are conflicting studies on long covid in kids.

Stop chatting crap.

The biggest study based on facts, concluded that there were more instances of long covid symptoms in kids that hadn’t had it, than those that had. That’s not one of your meaningless predictions, that was based on actual data.

The poster just looks for any reason to try and dig at the government and saw a day of high cases as his opportunity.
 
GM WEEKLY POP SCORES

Remember low scores good - going down good - high scores bad - going up bad


BOROUGH // POP SCORE TODAY // POP SCORE LAST WEEK // UP OR DOWN BY LAST 7 DAYS

Also WAS 4 weeks ago (up/down in past month)



MANCHESTER 246 // 214 //UP 32 WAS 324 (down 78)

ROCHDALE 254 // 222 // UP 32 WAS 319 (down 65)

BOLTON 270 // 248 // UP 22 WAS 276 (down 6)

BURY 317 // 246 // UP 71 WAS 312 (UP 5)

WIGAN 319 // 346 // DOWN 27 WAS 350 (down 31)

OLDHAM 339 // 314 // UP 25 WAS 349 (down 10)

SALFORD 342 // 298 // UP 44 WAS 372 (down 30)

TAMESIDE 481 // 478 // UP 3 WAS 487 (down 6)

STOCKPORT 559 // 524 // UP 35 WAS 394 (UP 165)

TRAFFORD 721 // 472 // UP 184 WAS 378 (UP 249)






Trafford for the third day running had far worse numbers than a still rising Stockport and have forged into an astounding lead and its highest ever Pop Score and the first GM borough into the 700s in a year - and that was only briefly whhen Student redustriubutions occurred this time last year

Stockport for 2 weeks way ahead is now in a blink 162 behind in second despite rising today by 21 itself!

Mind you Tameside is falling and itself now 78 back of Stockport.

With a steadily rising Salord now in fourth - though closer to the best in this table than the next highest - Tameside - 139 ahead of Salford.

Every single borough rose today a little and is clear but Manchester, Rochdale and Bolton now the only ones sub 300.

The top to bottom spread is now an astonishing 475 - from Manchester to Trafford.

Keeps growing daily at the moment. And will as long as TRafford keep posting those numbers that look crazily high - UP 249 from last month is a record aso I think.
 
The biggest study based on facts, concluded that there were more instances of long covid symptoms in kids that hadn’t had it, than those that had. That’s not one of your meaningless predictions, that was based on actual data.

The poster just looks for any reason to try and dig at the government and saw a day of high cases as his opportunity.

Just because someone else posts something you disagree with isn't a reason for you to chat crap.

There have been different studies with different definitions in different geographies reaching different conclusions on long covid in kids.

Nothing remotely approaching proof, a concept anyway reserved for maths and whisky.
 
ENGLAND ADMISSIONS


ADMISSIONS (DATA HERE IS ALWAYS 48 HOURS BEHIND - REMEMBER - SO THIS IS MON)


Last Week MON VERSUS This Week MON


TOTAL 617 VERSUS 627


LONDON 86 VERSUS 87

MIDLANDS 127 VERSUS 127

NE & YORKSHIRE 126 VERSUS 129

AND

NORTH WEST 90 VERSUS 93



Most places up slightly but nothing much
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL UPDATE TODAY

NEEDS WATCHING - CASE NUMBERS RISING - WILL THEY FEED INTO THESE NUMBERS OVER COMING DAYS?


TODAY PATIENTS WERE 5009 - UP 3 FROM 5006

LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-

5126 TO 5017

DOWN BY 109.

NO WAY TO SELL THIS AS GOOD - NUMBERS HAVE REALLY FLATTENED OFF IN PAST FEW DAYS



LAST WEEK THE WEEK TO WEEK PATIENT NUMBERS WED- WED WERE - 5406 - 5017 - A WEEKLY FALL OF 389

THIS WEEK IT WAS 5017 - 5009 - A WEEKLY FALL OF JUST 8



TUE - WED (Up/Down Today) - V last week


LONDON 925 - 904 (Down 21) V 983 last week (Down 79)

MIDLANDS 1029 - 1042 (UP 13) V 1003 last week (Up 39)

NE & YORKSHIRE 1093 - 1112 (UP 19) V 1055- (Up 57)

NORTH WEST 814 - 803 (Down 11) - V 834 ( DOWN 31)



As you can see North West falling a little still as is London bothon day and week to week but London is doing this more than the NW which has slowed right down as admissions have edged up.

Midlands and NE & Yorkshire up on day and up week to week and struggling the mot right now with Yorkshirw back up over 1100 patients today with NW 300 lower. These are roughly equal in low times.




The other smaller regions TODAY - Up/Down V Last week


East DOWN 8 to 359 V 366

South East DOWN 9 to 431 V 435

South West UP 20 to 358 V 341


South West struggling a bit the others pretty flat week to week like North West.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL UPDATE -VENTILATORS




VENTILATORS UP 2 TO 663 TODAY

LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-


A FALL of 10 FROM 681 TO 671


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WEEK TO WEEK (WED TO WED) VENTILATORS FELL FROM 671 TO 663 - A FALL OF 8

LAST WEEK THE FALL WAS FROM 783 TO 671 - A FALL OF 112

SLOWED RIGHT DOWN




YESTERDAY- TODAY V LAST WEEK


LONDON 175 - 171 (DOWN 4) - DOWN Wk to Wk BY 4 FROM 175

MIDLANDS 137 - 133 (DOWN 4) - DOWN Wk to Wk BY 6 FROM 139

NE & YORKSHIRE 126 - 125 (DOWN 1) - DOWN Wk to Wk 8 FROM 133

NORTH WEST TODAY 88 - 92 (UP 4) - UP Wk to Wk 7 FROM 85



As you can see North West is doing the WORST of all the main regions. The only one rising.




The other smaller regions :-

East UP by 3 to 52 V 43 last wk

South East UP by 3 to 48 V 52 last wk

South West UP by 1 to 42 V 44 last wk
 
UK PATIENTS AS OF TODAY:






ENGLAND 5009 SCOTLAND 988 NORTHERN IRELAND 362 WALES 470


UK TOTAL 6829

(DOWN 12 TODAY)






VENTILATED UK AS OF TODAY


ENGLAND 663 SCOTLAND 68 NORTHERN IRELAND 27 WALES 47

UK TOTAL 805


(UP 10 TODAY)
 
The biggest study based on facts, concluded that there were more instances of long covid symptoms in kids that hadn’t had it, than those that had. That’s not one of your meaningless predictions, that was based on actual data.

The poster just looks for any reason to try and dig at the government and saw a day of high cases as his opportunity.
Match the numbers up 1% of kid cases still get it. Its just not 6% like in adults
 
Another survey confirming that Pfizer vaccine's efficacy against hospitalisation remains very high after 6 months, but that its effectiveness against infection declines to 17% after 6 months.

https://mediacenteratypon.nejmgroup-production.org/NEJMoa2114114.pdf

A very similar result was published earlier this week. I knew immunity waned over time but I did not realise the extent.

If this is generally accepted then I think booster jabs will be essential. Boosters could have a very significant effect on transmission IF they were made more widely available

Edit: Qatar operated a small interval in dose interval which may skew their results.
 
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