Coronavirus (2021) thread

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Another survey confirming that Pfizer vaccine's efficacy against hospitalisation remains very high after 6 months, but that its effectiveness against infection declines to 17% after 6 months.

https://mediacenteratypon.nejmgroup-production.org/NEJMoa2114114.pdf

A very similar result was published earlier this week. I knew immunity waned over time but I did not realise the extent.

If this is generally accepted then I think booster jabs will be essential. Boosters could have a very significant effect on transmission IF they were made more widely available

surely just for the most vulnerable as the majority can handle not being hospitalised and having a mild infection?

 

[Bigga]

Long covid has been proven to not be a thing in kids. Stop chatting crap.

I don't really want to interject, but...

Covid used to be 'adult affected only'.

Covid 'used to be only minor in kids'.

Covid used to be 'less transmissible in young people'.

Covid used to be 'comorbidity related'.

Covid used to be 'solved with a vaccine, no two vaccines... and a booster at least, with no side affects and rare breakthrough cases'. Oh and said vaccines only having a short shelf life and not as strong as your own internal immune system which is weakened when taking a vaccine... Apparently.

And now, you're reacting to "Long covid has been proven to not be a thing in kids" how...?

How much time is needed to study a new borne pandemic with no study data? One would need the right amount of time and the right amount of patients to study, no?

Nobody has 'proven' anything, at any point, right now.

Even as people fight over it, it's becoming clear it's moving from pandemic to endemic and we'll just have to treat it like other viruses like the common cold or flu, which any ol' people can die from with complications within their systems.

 

[bluemc1]

I don't really want to interject, but...

Covid used to be 'adult affected only'.

Covid 'used to be only minor in kids'.

Covid used to be 'less transmissible in young people'.

Covid used to be 'comorbidity related'.

Covid used to be 'solved with a vaccine, no two vaccines... and a booster at least, with no side affects and rare breakthrough cases'. Oh and said vaccines only having a short shelf life and not as strong as your own internal immune system which is weakened when taking a vaccine... Apparently.

And now, you're reacting to "Long covid has been proven to not be a thing in kids" how...?

How much time is needed to study a new borne pandemic with no study data? One would need the right amount of time and the right amount of patients to study, no?

Nobody has 'proven' anything, at any point, right now.

Even as people fight over it, it's becoming clear it's moving from pandemic to endemic and we'll just have to treat it like other viruses like the common cold or flu, which any ol' people can die from with complications within their systems.

I think it was downgraded from pandemic a long time ago

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I think it was downgraded from pandemic a long time ago

Not sure why you think that, but it's not true.

 

[bluemc1]

Not sure why you think that, but it's not true.

sorry it was downgraded from high consequence infectious disease in March 2020

 

[Marvin]

surely just for the most vulnerable as the majority can handle not being hospitalised and having a mild infection?

If vaccines had longevity it would be a lot quicker and easier to convert this into a flu or cold-like illness. I predict many European countries will now follow the UK in widening their boosters campaigns. It is hard to say what trajectory Covid is going to take through the Winter. At the moment in the UK it is being driven by school children.

What will the R rate be when every sector of the population has been touched by it in some way? Moving target. This is what they say are handwavy generalities.

 

[grunge]

sorry it was downgraded from high consequence infectious disease in March 2020

I think that's a UK only definition.

High consequence infectious diseases (HCID)

Guidance and information about high consequence infectious diseases and their management in England.

www.gov.uk

Definition of HCID​

In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:

• acute infectious disease
• typically has a high case-fatality rate
• may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
• often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
• ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
• requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely

By March 2020 we had PCR tests for rapid detection which took it out of this category. Also the High case fatailty rate was probably boarder line back then.

 

[twosips]

What's the latest consensus on how accurate these lateral flow tests are? My wife is feeling a bit crap. Under the weather, sore throat, usual cold kinda stuff. She's tried three LFTs over the past couple of days, all negative. Safe to say she's alright? Just wanna make sure!

 

[blueparrot]

What's the latest consensus on how accurate these lateral flow tests are? My wife is feeling a bit crap. Under the weather, sore throat, usual cold kinda stuff. She's tried three LFTs over the past couple of days, all negative. Safe to say she's alright? Just wanna make sure!

They were fairly accurate when we had a family round of covid, only one false negative out of numerous tests between us. There are loads of people aroud here with normal colds though. Probabaly a result of nobody getting them last year, and everyone mixing.

 

[ganganvince]

What's the latest consensus on how accurate these lateral flow tests are? My wife is feeling a bit crap. Under the weather, sore throat, usual cold kinda stuff. She's tried three LFTs over the past couple of days, all negative. Safe to say she's alright? Just wanna make sure!

Lateral flow tests are good at finding Covid prior to symptoms appearing once symptoms are out accuracy drops like a stone.

Who can get a free COVID-19 rapid lateral flow test

Find out who can get a free COVID-19 rapid lateral flow test.

www.nhs.uk